GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
Well, it might fall under that definition to a certain degree.
But in this case, it's more of a Public Service Announcement.
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But in this case, it's more of a Public Service Announcement.
Greg Boeser
1st Lieutenant
PSAs are always propaganda.
Thumpalumpacus
Colonel
The Geneva Convention makes no allowance for these sorts of videos one way or the other. It could certainly be argued that these videos create conditions for the arousal of public curiosity, which is explicitly forbidden by Article 13.
I think it was John Keegan who pointed out that conditions in the opponents' PoW camps is one of the things soldiers in combat take seriously and find out quickly through the grapevine anyway.
manta22
Banned
Not if it's true.
What is true? It would be an especially bad hospital that had conditions as bad or worse than the front, if that were so soldiers would so soldiers would stay at the front, as they did in the Crimean war before Nightingale arrived We will not find out what is true for years, if ever.
manta22
Banned
"True" is what actually is or was- there is only ONE truth. Weasel-wording truth doesn't change it.
Greg Boeser
1st Lieutenant
Propaganda is any information used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view.
Pretty much everything a government puts out is propaganda. Especially in wartime.
Pretty much everything a government puts out is propaganda. Especially in wartime.
Admiral Beez
Major
Well, considering the murderous, civilian-targeting Russians they're facing, if this wanton PR exercise is the extent of Ukraine's Geneva Convention contraventions then I think we can give them a pass. They're trying to show the world and Russia that Ukraine is a humane player in this war.
Greg Boeser
1st Lieutenant
I think they need to be punished. No Netflix for a week!
buffnut453
Captain
That's a reward!
SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
By definition, methinks. Propaganda is government info, pro, con, indifferent. Department of Agriculture releases on soil, seed, etc. are propaganda. At least that was its original meaning. Awful originally meant awe inspiring.
What you see in a video is true, unless actors are used. But with the video in question that is one man in one room. It may be a one room hospital, the only one in the country, or it may be the same as 500 other rooms in the same hospital. How much what you see in the video is representative of anything else is the big question and there isnt one answer to that.
manta22
Banned
Truth is truth. I'm not refering to any particular video or incident, just the concept of what is truth.
Yes truth is truth, as long as you dont refer to any video, or incident, or anything specific truth is always true.
manta22
Banned
Whatever.
MiTasol
Major
And the old saying "the first casualty in war is truth" is, was, and always will be, true
Thumpalumpacus
Colonel
Reality is objective, but how humans perceive reality is not; it is filtered through both perceptual and mental filters. It follows, then, that while what is true exists objectively, the human ability to grasp it may not exist, as a result of subjective perspectives. That necessarily twists what this or that person thinks of as true. This is a conundrum we must all deal with.
As much as I detest philosophy, epistemology is one of its few useful contributions to human thinking.
