If there's significant damage to the prop there will be severe vibrations, likely too much for the image stabilisation to deal with. It would even potentially be enough to disrupt the controls, or tear the engine out.
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buffnut453
Captain
Agreed...and any such vibration may mask the jolt from hitting the fin. Bottom line is that the instruments will note something is wrong with the engine but there are few instrument cues to help with relatively minor damage to the airframe.
Greg Boeser
1st Lieutenant
Ahh, but the Russians have captured several foreign fighters in Ukraine, who belong to NATO nations. Which prove that they are fighting against NATO.
yep, secondary damage from the vibrations may even mask control damage as well. I think that whether it hit the fin or just the prop is largely irrelevant, it hit the prop, and that was unrecoverable.
My other thought is, if the russians were dumping fuel at it, what else were they dropping (chaf, flares, etc), and what would hitting them do?
Thumpalumpacus
Colonel
Russia’s next civil war has already begun
Factions in the military establishment are vying for position, at the expense of Putin’s invasion effortwww.telegraph.co.uk
He should remember what happened to Ernst Röhm in 1934, in similar, albeit peacetime, circumstances.
Thumpalumpacus
Colonel
Could the jet's exhaust plume introduce enough stress in the propeller to cause overstress/fragmentation on its own? I.E., could a close no-contact pass cause the prop to unwind on its own?
SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
There is a speed brake behind the cockpit of the Su-27. MQ-9 is not all that fast. Russian pilot training is rumored to be less than adequate.
Diving under the drone the pilot:
1). There are too many freaking variables to enumerate. Let's wait for the film at 11.
Low hour pilots trying to flex some post-Soviet muscle to impress each other(?) against an Amerikanski Air Force target that can't shoot back. Oops.
Diving under the drone the pilot:
1). There are too many freaking variables to enumerate. Let's wait for the film at 11.
Low hour pilots trying to flex some post-Soviet muscle to impress each other(?) against an Amerikanski Air Force target that can't shoot back. Oops.
Regarding the F-18s. The assembly line is just across the street. I am sure there are a few hundred assembly workers that would love to build some Super Hornets for Ukraine if anyone wants to pay for them. 
Oh, and we need to see some of this over the Black Sea…
buffnut453
Captain
Nice to see diplomacy isn't dead.
Thumpalumpacus
Colonel
Regarding the F-18s. The assembly line is just across the street. I am sure there are a few hundred assembly workers that would love to build some Super Hornets for Ukraine if anyone wants to pay for them.
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW, Washington, DC 20500
Greg Boeser
1st Lieutenant
He don't pay for nothin'. Just puts stuff on my tab.
Thumpalumpacus
Colonel
I'll pick up your share. It's worth it in this war. You can explain to the IRS on your own time.
Greg Boeser
1st Lieutenant
That's mighty generous of you!
I'm sure them Revenuers will be more than understanding.
Thumpalumpacus
Colonel
You're welcome. I hope they're easier on you.
SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
Best return on taxes. We are transferring old stock that would otherwise have to be recycled. The weapons are being used as intended without a single American casualty. We are sending equipment to NATO members so that they, in turn, can send equipment to Ukraine (and the rest of NATO is upping their game). It's the greatest advertising coup in history. So, who has the cool stuff now? Except for loser regimes, everyone is ditching Russian gear. Production is ramping up before China moved on Taiwan. It's like the American military arms industry is having a 10% off sale! JOBS! It's like what started bringing the U.S. out of the depression of the Thirties!
Thumpalumpacus
Colonel
I'd rather my tax $ be spent building weapons for others than sending GIs to fight and die. It's a hard thing to say, because I know those sonsabitches are going through some shit. But that's my own opinion for what it's worth.
SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
I'm guessing equipment stored and mothballed doesn't depreciate like a new car that's driven out of the showroom. Does the stuff that has been drawn down still carry its original valuation for establishing budgets/expenditures/etc?
GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
This is infuriating, to put it midly.
www.cnn.com
Zelensky vows justice after video appears to show Ukrainian soldier's execution | CNN
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky vowed Monday to "find the murderers" involved in a video that he said showed the execution of a Ukrainian soldier by Russian troops, as officials in Kyiv roundly condemned the incident as a war crime.
RogerdeLluria
Staff Sergeant
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Go to fight in the Wagner PMC, stop jerking off 
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Wondering if its a fake, but it actually fits them.
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Wondering if its a fake, but it actually fits them.
