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WARSPITER said:
I have seen the name as "Von" several times now in publications and on the net so there will be many who say it is correct even though it isn't.
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The '' von '' was a Soviet addition to emphasize the Stalingrad victory and make believe it was against an army led by a specimen of the cream of the Junkers corps.
Friedrich Paulus was in fact of middle class extraction. However his spouse was an aristocrat.
 
RogerdeLluria said:

View: https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1659899182918905859

View: https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1659919655488614400
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If the reports are true -- which Ukraine denies -- then perhaps the Russians may wish to reference the term "Pyrrhic victory".

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A top Russian official warned Western countries of "enormous risks" if they supply Ukraine with F-16 fighter aircrafts.

Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Alexander Grushko told the state-run Russian news agency TASS that Ukraine's Western allies are continuing to escalate the conflict, and the Kremlin will take their plan to send the F-16s into account.

"We can see that Western countries continue to stick to an escalation scenario, which carries enormous risks for them. In any case, we will take it into account when making plans. We have all the necessary means to achieve our goals," Grushko said.

Russian official warns Western countries face ‘enormous risks’ if they supply Ukraine with F-16s

A top Russian official warned Western countries of “enormous risks” if they supply Ukraine with F-16 fighter aircrafts. Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Alexander Grushko told the state-run Ru…
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You barely had the necessary means to take Bakhmut.
 
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It isn't often that I agree with most of an official Russian statement. It all depends on how you look at it. Lets take it a step at a time:-

A top Russian official warned Western countries of "enormous risks" if they supply Ukraine with F-16 fighter aircrafts.
There are enormous risks if Ukraine is supplied with F16's. Its just that All the risk is to Russia, not NATO. After all, these aircraft are almost obsolete in NATO and are being replaced with F35 and other more advanced aircraft

Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Alexander Grushko told the state-run Russian news agency TASS that Ukraine's Western allies are continuing to escalate the conflict.
That is the idea of the support of any kind. To give Ukraine the means to defend themselves and that inevitably extends the length of the invasion, increasing the cost and risk to Russia. By having to involve more resources and people than planned that could be described as an escalation to the original plan

And the Kremlin will take their plan to send the F-16s into account.
Of course they will, that is the general idea.
We have all the necessary means to achieve our goals
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Oh really?
 
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