"All of Vlad's forces and all of Vlad's men, are out to put Humpty together again." (27 Viewers)

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Also one has to look at the % of GDP. In theory Estonia is providing more aid than anyone when you take % of GDP. Estonia is providing 0.8% of its GDP in military aid. Poland is 0.3%. The US and England are 0.1% each. Germany is a lowly 0.03% and Canada is not much better with 0.06%.

Infographic: The Countries Pledging the Most Military Aid to Ukraine

This chart shows the countries committing the most military aid to Ukraine from Jan. 24, 2022 to Oct. 31, 2023 (in billion euros).

www.statista.com

 

[Admiral Beez]

Estonia is providing 0.8% of its GDP in military aid. Poland is 0.3%

Because they know they're next. Any nation with Russians must be wary.

Heck, Pikesville, Maryland has 19.30% Russians..... but I jest re. USA. These States on Russia's border that has large Russian minorities have to be wary.

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Because they know they're next. Any nation with Russians must be wary.

Heck, Pikesville, Maryland has 19.30% Russians..... but I jest re. USA. These States on Russia's border that has large Russian minorities have to be wary.

I think that plays a huge part.

Someone was alluding the other day why this was so important, why it was important for other countries to aid Ukraine, and what victory for the US looked like.

Well this is it. Ask Poland and Estonia. If Russia succeeds here, they will look beyond Ukraine's borders. Essentially this is the war that never broke out during the cold war with Ukraine not Germany being the front line. If Ukraine loses now, the rest of will surely be fighting tomorrow.

 

[gumbyk]

Yes, but these companies are far and few between. Profit over anything else. Capitalism 101.

ITAR probably has something to say about that too.

 

[Admiral Beez]

Someone was alluding the other day why this was so important....

When Ukraine takes back all its territory I think they'll be inclined to follow Russia's example from when they took Königsberg and northern East Prussia to create the Kaliningrad Oblast. They rounded up all the German-speakers and pushed them across the German border. Or when the USA defeated the British, and everyone loyal to Britain was forced to leave for Canada or elsewhere. You're either with us or must leave....

If the ethnic Russians living in Ukraine prefer to be Russians rather than Ukrainians, then let it be so... in Russia. And it's not about language, there are millions of loyal Ukrainians who speak only/mainly Russian - it was forced upon them by the occupiers. We've seen videos of these Russian-speaking civilians welcoming their UAF liberators. They know what side is best.

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

ITAR probably has something to say about that too.

Absolutely correct!

 

[gumbyk]

Absolutely correct!

Doesn't matter what the company wants to donate, if the US Government don't want it sent, it can't be.

 

[Thumpalumpacus]

When Ukraine takes back all its territory I think they'll be inclined to follow Russia's example from when they took Königsberg and northern East Prussia to create the Kaliningrad Oblast. They rounded up all the German-speakers and pushed them across the German border. Or when the USA defeated the British, and everyone loyal to Britain was forced to leave for Canada or elsewhere. You're either with us or must leave....

If the ethnic Russians living in Ukraine prefer to be Russians rather than Ukrainians, then let it be so... in Russia. And it's not about language, there are millions of loyal Ukrainians who speak only/mainly Russian - it was forced upon them by the occupiers. We've seen videos of these Russian-speaking civilians welcoming their UAF liberators. They know what side is best.

I suspect you're right, though it pleases me not one bit to say so. Those circumstances, if it comes to the situation here, are ripe for abuse, especially in the aftermath of such a bitter war.

 

[Jabberwocky]

Oh and American's actually eat more cabbage than the Germans. Maybe they should be called the Boche instead.

In Germany's defense, Americans pretty much eat more everything than everyone.

 

[GrauGeist]

In Germany's defense, Americans pretty much eat more everything than everyone.

The U.S. has a population of 332 million, Germany's population is 84 million.

So there is a good chance that more cabbage, brats and brezln are consumed in America by virtue of it's population being nearly 4 times that of Germany...

 

[SaparotRob]

Yes, but these companies are far and few between. Profit over anything else. Capitalism 101.

It is also a legal requirement of corporations to work on behalf of their stockholders and essentially maximize profit.

 

[SaparotRob]

In Germany's defense, Americans pretty much eat more everything than everyone.

...and with ketchup!

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

It is also a legal requirement of corporations to work on behalf of their stockholders and essentially maximize profit.

No disagreement

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

The U.S. has a population of 332 million, Germany's population is 84 million.

So there is a good chance that more cabbage, brats and brezln are consumed in America by virtue of it's population being nearly 4 times that of Germany...

No I am meaning in general. American's go "I'm eating German tonight! Brats with Sauerkraut (and usually that nasty stuff that comes in a can)." German's be like "Waaassss????"

 

[Admiral Beez]

In Germany's defense, Americans pretty much eat more everything than everyone.

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

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Ron is not wrong…

 

[SaparotRob]

Also one has to look at the % of GDP. In theory Estonia is providing more aid than anyone when you take % of GDP. Estonia is providing 0.8% of its GDP in military aid. Poland is 0.3%. The US and England are 0.1% each. Germany is a lowly 0.03% and Canada is not much better with 0.06%.

Infographic: The Countries Pledging the Most Military Aid to Ukraine

This chart shows the countries committing the most military aid to Ukraine from Jan. 24, 2022 to Oct. 31, 2023 (in billion euros).

www.statista.com

Is Lichtenstein pulling its weight?

 

[Greg Boeser]

It is also a legal requirement of corporations to work on behalf of their stockholders and essentially maximize profit.

Tax write-off. Dump old inventory. Win-win.

 

[SaparotRob]

I know, right? I mean c'mon, we're using F-16s for target practice! Send a few of them to the Ukrainian Air Force maintenance school.

We should also unload those B-36s gathering dust.

 

[Admiral Beez]

We should also unload those B-36s gathering dust.

Just four left. But I bet there a hundreds of other suitable strike aircraft in the American desert waiting for renewed life and purpose, like these F-16s below.