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Dimlee said:
UH-1Y can replace the ageing Mi-8.
Not sure about AH-1Z. GUR wanted to have its own fleet of choppers in 2022-2023, but the war has changed, indeed.
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Yeah, I was mainly focussing on the AH-1Z. Now, I believe helicopters, be they attack or transport, still have a role but in this particular war I think the drone situation and the air defence environment, has changed things significantly and thus the investment may be better placed elsewhere. Now, if
 
Thumpalumpacus said:
Trump could use Ukrainian aid in the same way US aviation got a huge boost from British and French orders 1939-40.
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That requires several things that are lacking at present, such as, but not limited to:
  • The US being seen as a reliable supplier with a few very clear export restrictions, and
  • The US government being seen as highly desiring exports to Europe, and
  • The US not charging 10% extra on weapons destined for the war zone - a tax that exclusively benefits Putin and his close friend, and
  • The US administration having an IQ larger than their shoe sizes so that they can realise that Russia has only gained 1.3% of Ukraine in the last 3.6 years and therefore is not capable of destroying Ukraine, and
  • etc
 
MiTasol said:
That requires several things that are lacking at present, such as, but not limited to:
  • The US being seen as a reliable supplier with a few very clear export restrictions, and
  • The US government being seen as highly desiring exports to Europe, and
  • The US not charging 10% extra on weapons destined for the war zone - a tax that exclusively benefits Putin and his close friend, and
  • The US administration having an IQ larger than their shoe sizes so that they can realise that Russia has only gained 1.3% of Ukraine in the last 3.6 years and therefore is not capable of destroying Ukraine, and
  • etc
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Of course, hence my use of "could" and not "is", and my opinion expressed above that current policies are very short-sighted.
 
GTX said:
www.twz.com

Russia Is Now Launching Jet-Powered Glide Bombs At Ukraine

Russia has been steadily increasing the capabilities of its air-launched glide bombs, and adding a motor is a worrying new development for Ukraine. Russia has been steadily increasing the capabilities of its air-launched glide bombs, and adding a motor is a worrying new development for Ukraine.
www.twz.com www.twz.com
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It's only a matter of time before we once again see barrage-balloons.
 
For several years, now, Ukraine's MI-24 has been a lethal adversary to Russian drones and the U.S. Cobra, which did have Hind killer enhancements at one point, would be an excellent compliment to Ukraine's drone defense network.

More on helicopters for drone interdiction:
Ukraine war: helicopters as drone killers
 
GrauGeist said:
Currently, the U.S. has about 1,000 Tomahawks of all variants in their inventory. These are divided up across all branches.

As an example of past deployed numbers in a comflict, the U.S. used just over 800 Tomahawks against Iraqi targets during Desert Storm.

To be honest, I would really like to see Tomahawks raining down on Putinland, but the reality is, that there just is not enough to share with Ukraine while maintaing effective stocks to counter any potential f**kery in the Pacific.
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I totally agree with the added proviso - all Tomahawks that are due for scrapping are scrapped by having Ukraine deliver them to Russia.
 
Admiral Beez said:
The Gripen has a lot of US tech and US revenue
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In the last analysis I saw of the Gripen only the engine was US made. All the rest was all EU products. The discussion at that stage was on the viability of the RR engine version as that made the whole aircraft free from US export restrictions and opened markets that the US refused to allow the engine to be sold to. (I suspect that RR version will die because I was working for an operator that was looking at re-engining Spey powered F-28s with Tays. The cost tripled in a few short months and made it cheaper to buy 737s or A219s.)

While everyone is celebrating this planned Gripen purchase by Ukraine it can still be derailed by the pro-Putin members of the US administration and it is also likely to attract the 10% fee that Mr another day, another policy puts on sales to Ukraine.
 
GTX said:
Yeah, I was mainly focussing on the AH-1Z. Now, I believe helicopters, be they attack or transport, still have a role but in this particular war I think the drone situation and the air defence environment, has changed things significantly and thus the investment may be better placed elsewhere. Now, if
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Hey, GTX, I thought you might come back and finish your thought here. Am I being dumb and missing the obvious, or is there something unsaid that might help me understand better?

I agree with your predication, but want to know what follows the "if", unless I'm being really dense.
 
MiTasol said:
In the last analysis I saw of the Gripen only the engine was US made. All the rest was all EU products. The discussion at that stage was on the viability of the RR engine version as that made the whole aircraft free from US export restrictions and opened markets that the US refused to allow the engine to be sold to. (I suspect that RR version will die because I was working for an operator that was looking at re-engining Spey powered F-28s with Tays. The cost tripled in a few short months and made it cheaper to buy 737s or A219s.)

While everyone is celebrating this planned Gripen purchase by Ukraine it can still be derailed by the pro-Putin members of the US administration and it is also likely to attract the 10% fee that Mr another day, another policy puts on sales to Ukraine.
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I think by the RR engine you mean the Eurojet EJ230, which is a development of the EJ200, the Eurofighter engine. Both were developed, and the EJ200 is produced, by the pan-European consortium EUROJET Turbo GmbH (Rolls-Royce, MTU, Avio, ITP). The EJ200 has its roots in the Rolls-Royce XG-40, a British turbofan engine technology demonstrator from the 1980s.

The Eurojet EJ230 is an improved, higher-thrust variant of the EJ200, which was proposed for several aircraft programs (like the HAL Tejas Mk2 and Saab Gripen E) but was ultimately not selected for production.
 
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