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Admiral Beez said:
Reliance on the whims of foreign aid will not bring victory. Only Ukraine can save itself. Ukraine is going to have to take on an Israeli national defence mindset. To Israelis there is no where to flee to, they understand that if Israel falls to invasion, then every Israeli man, woman and child will be butchered by the invaders. With that mindset, every Israeli adult is a trained soldier (even the orthodox Haredi as of last year), and at times of war, every Israeli fights. There is no home front where Israel's civilians can focus on the economy, keeping the shops open, or regular life. Everyone fights, for example during the Yom Kippur war, over 10% of all Israel adult males served in combat roles. If Ukraine did this, their army would double in size. Ukrainians, including the estimated five million who fled since 2022, need to see the invasion as an existential struggle for their people. With this in mind, every Ukrainian adult needs to be trained, armed and ready to fight. That's one path. The other path is Ukraine's military remains at approximately 900,000, which represents about 4.5% of the adult population, and is overrun. In this case, the only place Ukrainian culture and language exists is in the diaspora of refugees and emigrants found across the globe.
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Comparison of Ukraine and Israel is one of those topics that has been discussed ad nauseam since 2014. There are always lessons that can be learned from Israelis, but you can not replicate another Israel in another land which has a completely different history and, among other things, different neighbours. And different partners, by the way.

About the figures (because the devil is in the details):
The Ukrainian adult male population of all ages is estimated as 14 to 15 mln, including occupied territories, including those who left the country. The total number of Ukrainian defence forces is not disclosed today, but is probably around 1.2 mln in all branches, reserves, including local defence formations. So, it's already close to 10%.
Adult males (all ages) are about 25% of all Ukrainian refugees registered in the EU.

And this kind advice of yours, "Ukrainians, including the estimated five million who fled since 2022, need to see the invasion as an existential struggle for their people", sounds somewhat strange. With all my respect, do you really think that you can teach Ukrainians how to see the invasion that is killing us every day and night?
 
Realizing it might not have been the best idea


...and

www.cbc.ca

Canada joins world leaders saying Trump’s plan to end war in Ukraine needs 'additional work' | CBC News

Prime Minister Mark Carney is sitting down with the leaders of the U.K., Germany and the president of the European Council on the sidelines of the G20 to talk about Ukraine as President Volodymyr Zelenskyy warns his country is facing “one of the most difficult moments in its history.”
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Warspite63 said:
Just so I'm clear, the process is:
1. Meet sanctioned Russians in Florida to receive orders
2. Listen carefully to their demands orders and instructions
3. Write them down those that are to be given to Ukraine and memorise the rest
4. Label them 'Peace Plan'
5. Submit them to Ukraine
6. Threaten them if they don't sign on

That sounds about right?........
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