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VA5124 · Jun 11, 2021

pbehn said:
What is? Or is this more trolling?

not a troll just think its funny early spits and canes couldnt fly upside down while we could

pbehn · Jun 11, 2021

VA5124 said:
not a troll just think its funny early spits and canes couldnt fly upside down while we could

Who is "we"?

VA5124 · Jun 11, 2021

pbehn said:
Who is "we"?

we as in the us everything form the p 36 to the p61 could fly upside down

pbehn · Jun 11, 2021

VA5124 said:
we as in the us everything form the p 36 to the p61 could fly upside down

Did you have anything that could fly the right way up above 15,000ft? Your aircraft couldnt fight any higher than people in the Himalayas and Peru went for a walk.

VA5124 · Jun 11, 2021

pbehn said:
Did you have anything that could fly the right way up above 15,000ft? Your aircraft couldnt fight any higher than people in the Himalayas and Peru went for a walk.

p51 p38 p61 p47 f4u

pbehn · Jun 11, 2021

VA5124 said:
p51 p38 p61 p47 f4u

The P-51 as Mustang Mk 1 only was useful because it could take pictures and run away, not exactly what you want in a fighter, when it was fitted with the same engine as a Spitfire, it was really quite good, so what were you saying about flying upside down and Spitfires?

VA5124 · Jun 11, 2021

pbehn said:
The P-51 as Mustang Mk 1 only was useful because it could take pictures and run away, not exactly what you want in a fighter, when it was fitted with the same engine as a Spitfire, it was really quite good, so what were you saying about flying upside down and Spitfires?

high g moves starved your enigines

pbehn · Jun 11, 2021

VA5124 said:
high g moves starved your enigines

The P-51B/C D etc had "our" engines. I think you mean negative and not high "g", I also think you need some trolling practice, you arent very good at it.

VA5124 · Jun 11, 2021

pbehn said:
The P-51B/C D etc had "our" engines. I think you mean negative and not high "g", I also think you need some trolling practice, you arent very good at it.

whatever im done here

Thumpalumpacus · Jun 11, 2021

VA5124 said:
maybe but its still funny

Funny, and irrelevant. Thanks anyway.

VA5124 said:
whatever im done here

Oh, the humanity.

pbehn · Jun 11, 2021

VA5124 said:
whatever im done here

Is that a promise?

VA5124 · Jun 11, 2021

pbehn said:
Is that a promise?

i would like to issue an apolgoy i dont hate the spit i actually it like

Airframes · Jun 13, 2021

The early Spitfire actually could fly upside down.
What it couldn't do was "bunt", that is, nose over into a dive, without a short period when the engine "cut" due to fuel starvation, this problem being cured by alterations to the carb system.
To follow a diving enemy, the Spitfire did a half roll and then the pilot "pulled" to initiate a dive, before rolling level again. Seemed to work quite well ...............

pbehn · Jun 13, 2021

Airframes said:
The early Spitfire actually could fly upside down.
What it couldn't do was "bunt", that is, nose over into a dive, without a short period when the engine "cut" due to fuel starvation, this problem being cured by alterations to the carb system.
To follow a diving enemy, the Spitfire did a half roll and then the pilot "pulled" to initiate a dive, before rolling level again. Seemed to work quite well ...............

That has answered a question. Bob Doe in Bungay's "The Most Dangerous Enemy" feared he would be washed out because he hated flying inverted, I have always wondered how he knew or at what stage of training flying inverted was a "thing" because I understood (falsely) you couldnt do it with a Merlin.

gumbyk · Jun 13, 2021

pbehn said:
That has answered a question. Bob Doe in Bungay's "The Most Dangerous Enemy" feared he would be washed out because he hated flying inverted, I have always wondered how he knew or at what stage of training flying inverted was a "thing" because I understood (falsely) you couldnt do it with a Merlin.

Inverted flying was done in basic training (maybe not as part of the course, but it was done) I was reading about pilots returning from practice in an inverted glide in a Tiger Moth, which didn't have inverted fuel. It's not really a problem unless the prop stops and you don't have enough altitude to dive to restart.

NevadaK · Jun 16, 2021

I believe this was sort of settled by Flying Magazine and the Confederate Air Force when they held a couple dogfight matches between a Mustang and a Bearcat (first in the early 60's, then 70's?) the Bearcat dominated below 15k, things became more even between 15k and 25k, and then the Mustang dominated above 25k. Yes, the Spitfire is more maneuverable than the Mustang but the outcome should be pretty much the same.

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