blue swede
Airman
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- Nov 23, 2005
My money is on the He177 Grief!
Best Aircraft in Many Different Roles Part II
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Your money should be better spent on a book about the Heinkel He 177 Greif......
Not you again???!!!
You really should invest some money on some good books and actually learn something about WW2 aviation and the He 177...
JugBR
Staff Sergeant
the Jug should be a nice choice !
*dogfighter
*ground attack
*escort
*interceptor
not the most fast, not the most beautifull, but realiable and armoured like the goddamm hell ! its our baby...
also Bf 109 should be a nice choice by the axis side, by its different versions and also his fexibility in battlefield.
*dogfighter
*ground attack
*escort
*interceptor
not the most fast, not the most beautifull, but realiable and armoured like the goddamm hell ! its our baby...
also Bf 109 should be a nice choice by the axis side, by its different versions and also his fexibility in battlefield.
JugBR
Staff Sergeant
but he was very armoured, it save the lifes of many dudes in the war. but also the plane has a combination of heavy guns, wich made him bad to digest by the luftwaffe predators i gess.
For allies I would go with either the P-38 or the Mossie and for the Axis I would go with the Ju 88 which in my opinion is one of the most versatile aircraft ever built.
KrazyKraut
Banned
- 337
- Apr 21, 2008
Fw-190:
Fighter, interceptor, ground attack, night fighter (limited) and pretty adaptable to these roles too.
Fighter, interceptor, ground attack, night fighter (limited) and pretty adaptable to these roles too.
BIG BIRD
Airman
The fw190 had speed, manuveribility, armore, armorment and was the germans best mass produced dogfighter acording to many. it was great against tanks and was used semi efectivly with the tame and wild bore night fighter sqoudrins.
The he177 grief was palugued with engine problems Hence the nikename "flying coffon". But late war variants were some of the best bombers the germans had. But they were only good at bombing, somtimes the were used as semi dive bombers. but to the point most of them were plagued with problems and those that were'nt were not much good for anything exept bombing. In the mini blitz the germans lunched late in war against london the he177 took the lowest losses of any german bomber. Alot of there missions were even flown at day!8)
The he177 grief was palugued with engine problems Hence the nikename "flying coffon". But late war variants were some of the best bombers the germans had. But they were only good at bombing, somtimes the were used as semi dive bombers. but to the point most of them were plagued with problems and those that were'nt were not much good for anything exept bombing. In the mini blitz the germans lunched late in war against london the he177 took the lowest losses of any german bomber. Alot of there missions were even flown at day!8)
B-17engineer
Colonel
...well I am going to say for axis....sounds silly but the Ju-87...close support,anti tank missions,ground attack, and dive bombing or Ju-88...
Allies Mossie, and Corsair
Allies Mossie, and Corsair
BIG BIRD
Airman
The Ju 88 was a versitile aircraft: hevy fighter, night fighter, bomber, schnell bomber, dive bomber. Mean while the ju 87 was just a good ground attack aircraft and coudent do enything other than that.
BIG BIRD
Airman
thanks for mentioning the corsair, That was just as multi role capasity as the focke wulf fw 190. But was let down with lack of a hevy cannon.
B-17engineer
Colonel
Yea that is true but It did provide a lot of support during the Pacific invasions
BIG BIRD
Airman
What made the corsair so efective in the pacific was a hevy bomb and rocket load and lack of Jap tanks. With out enimy tanks the lack of cannons was only a miniscule draw back
kool kitty89
Senior Master Sergeant
The 190's cannon wouldn't be much good aganst tanks (at least not much moreso than .50's). And the underwing MK 103's weren't practical. (not used in the anti-tank role anyway)
Read the tank buster thread, one of the most effective (if not the most) was napalm, which the Corsair did use to a limited extent.
Also the HVAR was decent in the anti-tank role as well. (as far as rockets go)
And the Corsair was a pretty accurate dive bomber. (not that dive bombing was particularly good aganst tanks with conventional bombs -with cluster bombs -which weren't used By the US iirc or naplam it's a bit different-)
Read the tank buster thread, one of the most effective (if not the most) was napalm, which the Corsair did use to a limited extent.
Also the HVAR was decent in the anti-tank role as well. (as far as rockets go)
And the Corsair was a pretty accurate dive bomber. (not that dive bombing was particularly good aganst tanks with conventional bombs -with cluster bombs -which weren't used By the US iirc or naplam it's a bit different-)
BIG BIRD
Airman
The fw 190 was fitted with various anti tank armerments such as air two ground rockets and hevey anti tank cannons fitted under wing were more than capable of punching through the top armore of a sherman or even a t-34.
In theary the corsair could only carry five or six napalm bombs, I read that a napalm hit within 50 feet would kill a tank, The germans [ and japanise for that matter] rarly had more than one tank in a 50 feet radios, so lets asume that it takes one napalm bomb to kill a tank. I will be generous and say that a corsair can kill 10 tanks on any given sortie. Mean while it is thearyeticly posible, I am not saying that it ever apened, That a cannon armed plane could destroy up to 30 tanks in any given sortie. Napalm was more efective against tank masses and would not have wiped out the german tank force. I do have to admit if the germans had napalm they would have killed thousinds of russian tanks, the russians perfered massed tank attacks.
In theary the corsair could only carry five or six napalm bombs, I read that a napalm hit within 50 feet would kill a tank, The germans [ and japanise for that matter] rarly had more than one tank in a 50 feet radios, so lets asume that it takes one napalm bomb to kill a tank. I will be generous and say that a corsair can kill 10 tanks on any given sortie. Mean while it is thearyeticly posible, I am not saying that it ever apened, That a cannon armed plane could destroy up to 30 tanks in any given sortie. Napalm was more efective against tank masses and would not have wiped out the german tank force. I do have to admit if the germans had napalm they would have killed thousinds of russian tanks, the russians perfered massed tank attacks.
BIG BIRD
Airman
most people think wikipedia is a unrelible source, but I think it works. Acording to wikipedia the mk 103 was desigened as a anti tank and anti air gun.
Here is a link MK 103 cannon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
do you now if anybody developed a forword firing napalm rocket
Here is a link MK 103 cannon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
do you now if anybody developed a forword firing napalm rocket
kool kitty89
Senior Master Sergeant
Napalm was droppted in tanks (in the case of the F4U the same type as its drop tanks)
The underwing MK 103's tried on the Anton (/R3 iirc) were intended as an anti-tank armament, but this configuration was unsatisfactory as I recall as the accuracy was too poor.
The antitank version of the R4M rockets (Panzerblitz 2) used with the Fw 190 were quite good though.
The underwing MK 103's tried on the Anton (/R3 iirc) were intended as an anti-tank armament, but this configuration was unsatisfactory as I recall as the accuracy was too poor.
The antitank version of the R4M rockets (Panzerblitz 2) used with the Fw 190 were quite good though.
BIG BIRD
Airman
Ether way they are both versitile aircraft.
