flying tank what?
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but it can shoot down a flying tank.
sorry for reasons that I have already stated in the best nf thread about the He 219, the Ju 88G-6 was superior. in fact due to the over-arming of the 219 the underfuselage arms were reduced in I./NJG 1. Two man crew was a prob, the ejection seat had its fallacies with too many crews busting out through glass. no rear mg 131 for a Mossie deterent, on it goes. he 219 was a sitting duck in daylight making transfer flights and being hunted down by RAF fighters. the Uhu's record was not impressive as some would believe.
I'll make no comment about twin seat B-1a/U1 262's during the day.
Bill
I have chatted many times with the historian of I./NJg 1 out of Venlo, the Uhu never could hit 400 mph plus there were so many technical entanglements besides the beast being way too big over all. A Mossie hunter A-6 was invisioned but even with it's stripped armor and armament it was felt there ws nothing gained in producing it. In regards to I./NJG 1 they approved and loved the Uhu in comparison to the Bf 110G-4 which was cramped and way too slow but yet still flew with success with the other 3 gruppen of NJG 1. another aspect quite often overlooked was the the missing component of most Uhu's on ops and that is lack of rearward radar a standard fit to the Ju 88G-6. As I said flying the Uhu in whatever variant during the day or even any twin engine job NF by the LW in 44-45 was suicidal.
back the the twin seater 262 with radar, it was needed, driving a single engine at night just with ground searchlights was not where the LW NJG's had to go they had to face it - they needed a back seater to drive home the Zahme Sau taktics with radar and that was the essence had jet portion of NJG 11 been able to go into 1946 this indeed is where it would of led. We know this from the pilots/crewmens mouths
It's easy understand that Ju 88G it's more efficency weapons system for nighter fighter of He 219 but it's for me more hard understand that Ju 88G was simply a best fighter of He 219, can explain, give info on speed, turn rate, roll rate and so...
thank
I do not think that those criteria (except maybe turn and roll rate) are defining factors for a night fighter.
If you wish to really get into depth in the night fighter discussion, we already have a thread about Night Fighters. The topic of He 219 vs. Ju 88 is discussed in depth in that thread.
I think what Vincenzo meant was that he understands that the Ju 88 is a better nightfighter than the He 219, but doesn't think that it is the better (heavy) fighter of the two per se.I do not think that those criteria (except maybe turn and roll rate) are defining factors for a night fighter.
If you wish to really get into depth in the night fighter discussion, we already have a thread about Night Fighters. The topic of He 219 vs. Ju 88 is discussed in depth in that thread.
It seems to me that the fundamental criteria for successful night fighter is good radar and operator to minimize what the pilot must manage, adequate speed and climb to get on station at the altitude loiter position, high closing speed on the bomber and firepower.
as long as the roll rate is better than the bomber that should be good enough.
For evasion from night fighter - then ability to detect presence and enough manueverability to get out of the radar scan seems to be adequate.
would this be desirable at night?...high closing speed on the bomber...
would this be desirable at night?
would this be desirable at night?
I think what Vincenzo meant was that he understands that the Ju 88 is a better nightfighter than the He 219, but doesn't think that it is the better (heavy) fighter of the two per se.
And I would agree with him as many of the deficiencies of the He 219 would not have mattered had it been used as a heavy fighter and the Ju 88 was never all that successful in that role iirc. However I doubt it (the He 219) would've been markedly superior to a Me 410 and certainly would've had similar problems against escorts. Considering how moderately the EKdo 335 estimated the Do 335 to perform in that role in early '45, I don't think a somewhat/considerably slower plane would've fared better.
I do not think that those criteria (except maybe turn and roll rate) are defining factors for a night fighter.
If you wish to really get into depth in the night fighter discussion, we already have a thread about Night Fighters. The topic of He 219 vs. Ju 88 is discussed in depth in that thread.