Best Piston Engined Fighter Ever...

Best Piston Engined Fighter Ever...


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Hello Soren
the simply explanation why those secondary source info aren't show in Mike's site is that the site rely on primary source material, that should be obvious to everyone who had visited there.

Juha
 
Not true Juha, the are some documents from already published works on there, but oddly enough only the ones showing poor performance.
 

Im no expert on law but unless you can find a copy right on them then I see no problem with them. Maybe some one will have more. Feel free to post them in the flight test data area. Start your own thread if you want. We can always rename this area down the line on how this goes.
 

Then contact Mike and see if he would be willing to work with you.

Also get with Paul, I am sure he would be willing to set up a Axis technical section and work with you on it.
 
I'll get straight on it this weekend. Incidentally the ones Timppa just posted are a few of those I've posted on this forum many times before.
 
The graphs I posted have all been floating around for many years in various forums and sites in the web. Couple of them are in Mike's site WWII Aircraft Performance also, and couple of them can be found in Dietmar Hermann's books. If there are some copyright issues, I'll remove them.
This is basically all hard performance data I have seen for the Ta152, so any additions is welcome.
 
Hello
I can back up Timppa in that that I saw most of the graphs already some 6 years ago in one excellent Fw 190 Dora site, Haven't check the site in past couple years, so I'm not sure is it still up.

Juha
 
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As I want to see in the "Flight test data" section only data, not opinions,I answer here:
There were 2 or 3 injection rates for GM-1: 60, 100, or 150 g/sec.(liquid nitrous oxide) according to Hermann, or
100/150 g/s per Jumo 213E performance chart.
Hence the sawtooth speed curve (above 11,500m). If you claim the "sawtooth" was because of different supercharger gear speeds, I would love to see the evidence, because your explanation makes no sense at all.

The DB603 was intended for Ta152C only (and as a backup engine for the rest of the variants).
The Ta152H was intended with Jumo213E-->Jumo212E-1-->Jumo213EB-->Jumo213I
The last one with 2,700hp takeoff power, Nov. 1945.

The H-0 variant was without MW-50 and GM-1 but with the base boost rating increased to 1,900hp.
 
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It is a long list with so many best sky machines. But I believe tracking the performances and operational results during WW II, the best piston engine (propeller) aircraft is Me-109. With all the inconveniences and to be a little outdated at the end of the war, is no match to this great airplane. Small and fastest this was a terrible machine in the hands of skillful pilot. Everybody can check the list of aces from Germany, Finland, Hungary and Romania and that will weight a lot in selecting the great piston airplane.
 
Phenomally fast aircraft, nimble as an I-16... at altitude. below 20000 though she was a pig. At low altitude the wings that make it so nimble at altitude make it hard to reach 350 down low. It had absolutely no ablility to carry ordinance, and that is half of most operational fighters duties. Great 'what if ' aircraft had the Germans not surrendered for another year or two. Greatest? Not by a long shot.

I chose the Corsair, its as fast if not faster at altitude, it performs admirably on the deck, its rugged and has a meriad of operational functions. The last piston engined fighter in production, even longer than the Spanish Merlin powered Me 109s. Not by much, though.
 

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