Can anyone id this radial? Thanks

[Edward Kelly]

 

[at6]

Three blade corroded prop, what looks like corroded cooling fan blades behind the prop. Is it possibly a BMW 801 Series?

 

[Snautzer01]

What is the deal with the skull?

 

[Edward Kelly]

Three blade corroded prop, what looks like corroded cooling fan blades behind the prop. Is it possibly a BMW 801 Series?

it looks like an 18 cylinder engine but definitely has the cooling fans which narrows it down somewhat.

 

[tomo pauk]

Ha 42 (104; 214) perhaps?

 

[mjfur]

A version of the ASh-82/M-82. ASh-82, ASh-82F, ASh-82FN, ASh-82T
Used in La-5 perhaps? Asisbiz LAVOCHKIN-LA-5 Lavochkin,La-5,lined,up,01

 

[Snautzer01]

not a vdm prop i think

 

[special ed]

Could the prop be wood and the corrosion is worm holes?

 

[Tony Kambic]

Could the prop be wood and the corrosion is worm holes?

Not an HA-42 that I know of. I was fortunate to have worked on the HA-42 that NASM has and the spark plug hole config is different.

 

[Snautzer01]

What is the deal with the skull?

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Nobody bothered by this?

 

[GrauGeist]

Nobody bothered by this?

If the skull belonged to the pilot, the helmet and goggles would be in poor condition.
It looks to me like a prop for shock value.

 

[Snautzer01]

Thats what i thought. Perhaps the whole setup is fake or for a movie. That bothered me skull wise.

 

[GrauGeist]

Thats what i thought. Perhaps the whole setup is fake or for a movie. That bothered me skull wise.

Could also be the result of mechanics' warped sense of humor.
For example, in our shop, there was a security camera which was rarely looked by the boss. We had taken a screenshot of a ghost and placed it in front of the camera - weeks went by and we forgot about it until one day, the boss thought he'd see how things were going in the shop and opened the view in his computer.
Startled the hell out of him...

 

[YakMan]

This is an odd one! I would have said, any radial with a fan on the front is a helicopter engine. Radials get most of their cooling air from the forward motion of the aircraft - very little from the prop hence helicopter engines need a fan to cool them. This engine is very Wright-ish looking and looks to me like it has fuel injection so I would have said it was a Shvetsov ASh-82V (V for Vertolet or Helicopter) BUT it has a prop on the front which looks contemporary and genuine to me. An ASh-82V has no prop driveshaft but ends in a huge clutch so there is nowhere to hang a prop in any case. However, the skull might indicate a sense of humour so maybe someone has skilfully added a prop to a helicopter engine!

Bottom line is . . . I'm confused!

 

[Tony Kambic]

This is an odd one! I would have said, any radial with a fan on the front is a helicopter engine. Radials get most of their cooling air from the forward motion of the aircraft - very little from the prop hence helicopter engines need a fan to cool them. This engine is very Wright-ish looking and looks to me like it has fuel injection so I would have said it was a Shvetsov ASh-82V (V for Vertolet or Helicopter) BUT it has a prop on the front which looks contemporary and genuine to me. An ASh-82V has no prop driveshaft but ends in a huge clutch so there is nowhere to hang a prop in any case. However, the skull might indicate a sense of humour so maybe someone has skilfully added a prop to a helicopter engine!

Bottom line is . . . I'm confused!

Possibly a Homare Ha51-01. Seems only 4 were built.

 

[GrauGeist]

This is an odd one! I would have said, any radial with a fan on the front is a helicopter engine. Radials get most of their cooling air from the forward motion of the aircraft - very little from the prop hence helicopter engines need a fan to cool them. This engine is very Wright-ish looking and looks to me like it has fuel injection so I would have said it was a Shvetsov ASh-82V (V for Vertolet or Helicopter) BUT it has a prop on the front which looks contemporary and genuine to me. An ASh-82V has no prop driveshaft but ends in a huge clutch so there is nowhere to hang a prop in any case. However, the skull might indicate a sense of humour so maybe someone has skilfully added a prop to a helicopter engine!

Bottom line is . . . I'm confused!

Several Nakajima engines (Ha-42, for example) had a cooling fan as did the BMW801.

The radial pictured does look like a Japanese type, but it's badly weathered and the cooling fan had more blades than most, so it's hard to tell.

As far as the Ha-51, only four were ever built and all were scrapped after testing by the US military.

 

[Tony Kambic]

Possibly a Homare Ha51-01. Seems only 4 were built.

Nevermind, Homare Ha51-01 has two banks of 11 cylinders, which is not this engine.

 

[Shinpachi]

This does not look a Japanese engine as the locker arm cover has more than 4 screw holes.

 

[GrauGeist]

This does not look a Japanese engine as the locker arm cover has more than 4 screw holes.

I was looking at the horizontal and vertical cooling fins on the cylinders and it seemed to look like advanced late-war Japanese designs.

 

[Tony Kambic]

Here is the only known surviving Ha51-01. My dear old friend Rob Mawhinney took this image.