Curtiss P-36 Hawk , Curtiss Hawk Model 75 (1 Viewer)

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It is interesting to me to see that the US was thinking in terms of fighter bombers well before the war.. Of course the Curtiss F11 ultimately yielded the BF2C, a fighter turned into a dive bomber, and it was a US fighter carrying bombs that led to Udet's fascination with the Stuka concept.
 
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MIflyer said:
It is interesting to me to see that the US was thinking in terms of fighter bombers well before the war.. Of course the Curtiss F11 ultimately yielded the BF2C, a fighter turned into a dive bomber, and it was a US fighter carrying bombs that led to Udet's fascination with the Stuka concept.
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It's a thinly vailed ad for the export model of the P-36. USAAC P-36s did not have armor, 4 wing guns, the ability to carry under wing cannons , or bomb racks.
 
You know, I think maybe that a Hawk 75 with, say, an R-2600 up front probably would have made a better fighter bomber than anything else the RAF had in the ETO, or on the south side of a P-47. Too bad P-40 production was not switched to that in late 1943.

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MIflyer said:
You know, I think maybe that a Hawk 75 with, say, an R-2600 up front probably would have made a better fighter bomber than anything else the RAF had in the ETO, or on the south side of a P-47. Too bad P-40 production was not switched to that in late 1943.

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The XP-42, shown above, sure was a nice looking airplane. I like the R-2600 idea, but with a two-stage/two-speed super charger and 4-6 .50's.
It might've bested the P-40, as you aluded to in your post, however, for the XP-42, as it stood, it was a good idea that just didn't pan out.
Wiki explained it pretty good....

XP-42 Wiki Page said:
When the XP-42 first flew in March 1939, it proved to be faster than the P-36. However, the P-40 was faster still and the new nose cowling caused engine cooling problems that proved to be unresolvable, despite at least 12 sets of modifications.
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I like the R-2600 idea, but with a two-stage/two-speed super charger
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You'd have never stuffed all that in a P-40N-type airframe. The XP-42 used an R-1830, so no wonder it was slower than a P-40. I don't think you could have gotten anything bigger than an R-2600 in there without major revisions. I guess a R-2000 could have been fitted to a P-40 without much trouble but that would have not been much if any of an increase in HP. Curtiss tried making a bigger more powerful P-40, the XP-60 and ended up with pretty much a P-47.

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