Did Northrop and Vought Help Design the Zero

[SaparotRob]

When I was in high school my girlfriend was made in China. There were significant unique and proprietary qualities versus the western models.

Ditto.

 

[SaparotRob]

The issue with China is not ethnic but systemic.

 

[Thumpalumpacus]

Some Chinese goods are great. Some are junk. I avoid where possible buying MiC stuff because I want to minimize the support I give to an autocracy that practices imprisonment for thoughtcrime and cultural genocide.

 

[GrauGeist]

When I was in high school my girlfriend was made in China. There were significant unique and proprietary qualities versus the western models.

My high School sweetheart was half Japanese and part Hawaiian/Anglo.

I have no issues with the people of any nation/continent.

But the point being, the manufactured consumer goods being streamed from China are not of the highest quality - this literally boils down to "you get what you pay for".

 

[Thumpalumpacus]

My high School sweetheart was half Japanese and part Hawaiian/Anglo.

I have no issues with the people of any nation/continent.

But the point being, the manufactured consumer goods being streamed from China are not of the highest quality - this literally boils down to "you get what you pay for".

I have a 2015 MiC Ibanez AS 93, the quality of which so far surpassed my MiA 2009 Gibson SG that I first relegated the latter to backup before selling it in 2016. The list price on the Ibby was 50% of the Gibby.

25 years ago, sure, Chinese goods deserved the crap reputation across the board. That is not nearly the case nowadays.

 

[Thumpalumpacus]

... aaaaand any excuse to post some guitar porn:

 

[Admiral Beez]

But the point being, the manufactured consumer goods being streamed from China are not of the highest quality - this literally boils down to "you get what you pay for".

I do wonder what the internals and systems of a PLAN carrier or other warship looks like. Video footage is seemingly unavailable.

 

[Trilisser]

Regarding underwing gun pods: Both in the Bf 109 and the Fokker D. XXI such pods gave surprisingly little drag. Less than a 10 km/h reduction in level speed.

 

[Admiral Beez]

Regarding underwing gun pods: Both in the Bf 109 and the Fokker D. XXI such pods gave surprisingly little drag. Less than a 10 km/h reduction in level speed.

It's hard to imagine that these didn't cause a marked deficit.

 

[GrauGeist]

It's hard to imagine that these didn't cause a marked deficit.

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They did.

Regardless of type, there was a drag penalty.

The added weight plus drag also changed the aircraft's roll rate performance, too.

 

[gumbyk]

Some Chinese goods are great. Some are junk. I avoid where possible buying MiC stuff because I want to minimize the support I give to an autocracy that practices imprisonment for thoughtcrime and cultural genocide.

What you're seeing there is a buyer who 'negotiates' a lower price. Chinese manufacturers simply drop the quality to match the price the buyer is willing to pay.
I know a buyer who offered more than they initially quoted - everything extra he got was an improvement in quality. He never had any returns.

 

[Escuadrilla Azul]

But the point being, the manufactured consumer goods being streamed from China are not of the highest quality - this literally boils down to "you get what you pay for".

I bought a Realme X2 mobile in October 2019. 12 GB RAM + 256 GB storage space (which is very competitive nowadays), fast charge and top processor (in its day) and till this day zero problems with it. All for some 450 euros (a quarter to a third less than a comparable mobile from other manufacter).

So no like that. Of course there is crap to be found in chinese consumer goods but not everything is that. They are very capable of doing very good things with a good price.

 

[BarnOwlLover]

Of course, that does apply, irrespective of country...

But on topic, the "fact" that the Zero and other Japanese aircraft "had" to have relied on foreign tech is one of those myths that won't die, like P-51 Mustang designer Ed Schmued being German and worked in the German aero industry (he was Austrian, actually, and was a US citizen years before German rearmament), that the P-51H was "weaker" structurally than earlier versions (not true, except maybe for landing gear), and that the P-40 was total junk (restricted in terms of age of design and high altitude engine performance, but was actually one of the most maneuverable fighters of World War II, just later on didn't have the speed and climb for the most part to go with it).

Yes, Japan did benefit on western technology as far as engine development (even later engines were built using lessons learned from such licensed production), but one, Japan wasn't alone in that, and two, their actual airframes were original designs suited to their requirements of the time. These guys (the designers and engineers) weren't dummies, and only when they ran into engine tech limitations did Japan fall behind markedly. Of course, Germany ended up having the same problems, for many of the same reasons.