There is nothing wrong with the 787. I've flown on KLM 787s quite a few times.
Now I won't fly on anything operated by Air India.
Now I won't fly on anything operated by Air India.
Dream liner down in India on air port
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Snautzer01
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Sure. But. Neh.
Next time I go to the USA, I'll take the C172 
Thumpalumpacus
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Software updates may not be twelve years old.
That is true, but I highly doubt this is a Boeing caused accident. Just my opinion of course.
AerialTorpedoDude69
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Greg, from Greg's Automobiles and Aircraft, chimed in with his take on the crash:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-MAiI_p748
He also believes it may be a double engine failure caused by the fuel valves closing.
The other video mentioned that they were clog-resistant delta fuel valves and so a blockage was unlikely.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-MAiI_p748
He also believes it may be a double engine failure caused by the fuel valves closing.
The other video mentioned that they were clog-resistant delta fuel valves and so a blockage was unlikely.
Thumpalumpacus
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Agreed, this probably falls outside the media phenomenon imo.
EAIAnalog
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For reference, here is a video of an Air Canada 787 taking off in Geneva. You can see the front flaps and the rear flaps are deployed as it taxis. But after takeoff, with distance and a lower resolution video, it might be hard to tell if the rear flaps are down.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMUGsV1Pl-c
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMUGsV1Pl-c
Thumpalumpacus
Colonel
Apparently this plane was powered by two GEnx-1B67 engines. Do these engines have similar issues?
I honestly have no clue
What is somewhat interesting is that for the 787, Western airlines tend to be using aircraft with GE engines while Asian and some Middle Eastern airlines are using Rolls Royce engines. There was an article a while back breaking down which airline used which type of engine. As for the Rolls Royce engines, some are locally produced. The RR engines are claimed to have a very slight power advantage over the GE equivalent. A quality control problem may take out one engine but not both at once but it is noteworthy that some production is local and may account for replacement engines in a 12 year old airliner..
Would an electrical system failure cause a fuel delivery problem severe enough for both engines to flame out? Possibly a fuel flow or pressure problem?
Would an electrical system failure cause a fuel delivery problem severe enough for both engines to flame out? Possibly a fuel flow or pressure problem?
I was just reading a WSJ article (no link) that mentioned evidence shows that the flaps were configured for take off at the time of take off. With the RAT deployment it means a dual engine failure/loss of thrust is more likely.
Thumpalumpacus
Colonel
Here is a news article from Friday. Apparently India has seen a few engine failures with the 787 recently. Some have made the news.
I wonder what has changed recently to cause the engine failures.
federalcharacter.com
- Ivan.
I wonder what has changed recently to cause the engine failures.
India Grounds Boeing 787s After Crash Probe Finds Engine Issues
India's Aircraft Accident Investigation Bureau has identified potential compressor stall issues in the Rolls-Royce Trent 1000 engines as a key focus
federalcharacter.com
- Ivan.
I wonder what has changed recently to cause the engine failures.
India Grounds Boeing 787s After Crash Probe Finds Engine Issues
India's Aircraft Accident Investigation Bureau has identified potential compressor stall issues in the Rolls-Royce Trent 1000 engines as a key focus
- Ivan.
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One of the engines (Starboard) on AI171 had been replaced back in March 2025 and it failed as well.
Maybe GE has some issues…
The engines were NOT GE. They were Rolls Royce Trent 1000s.
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I'm still betting on something maintenance or fuel related.
We'll see though…
We'll see though…
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