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Art Medcalf
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It looks to me that the original Luftwaffe last two letters of the fuselage were NL and these were repainted to an RAF squadron code of OH. Look at the RAF fighter in the background on a previous image.
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Stefan Evans
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Has anyone got a idea of the NJG, only asking because I do illustrations of luftwaffe aircraft from photos of the Junkers
Junkers Ju-88G which is my favourite aircraft in the war?
The enlarged shot reveals tha the code wasn't NL but GH ( I believe it is the orginal LW one ) and it is very likely the Brits painted the ML or MU code on that with the smaller font.
IMHO it's the Ju 88G-6 of 1./NJG3 D5+GH WNr 621642 that landed at the Irish Air Corps base at Gormanstown near Dublin in the early hours of 5th May 1945 they had flown from Grove in Denmark.The crew consisted of OFw. Herbert Gieseke (7 victories), OGefr. Bernhard Kruschyna and Uffz. Horst Schmidt.
Eric Winkle Brown came to Ireland to fly the Ju-88G to Britain. It was then given the RAF serial number VK888.
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Captain Eric Melrose "Winkle" Brown, CBE, DSC, AFC, Hon FRAeS, RN
Stefan Evans
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Thank You so much, this will become very, very useful for me. Cheers Wurger.
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My pleasure. I hope I'm not wrong with the ID.
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Actually it is quite difficult to state it is the same Ju-88G. There are differences between them. The one in the post #1399 ( the left pic below ) has the prop spinners painted black. Also there is the lack of the flame dampers. Additionally the kite has the engine cowling painted light overall. What is more the frame of the cockpit glass was painted dark.
Contrary to that the Ju-88G in the post #1401 ( the right pic below ) has the spinners painted light. The flame damper of the port engine can be noticed. The frame of the cockpit is light coated and the engine cowlings are painted dark at tops and sides while the undersides are light.
Certainly both of the images could have been taken at the different time period and locations. However the flat tyre of the Ju-88 in the left pic, the lack of the rear part of the cockpit hood and opened engine cowling accessing panels may suggest an abandoned aircraft. All that togheter with the Spitfire of the no.401 Squadron RCAF in the very late war uniform indicate an airfield in Holland ( Netherlands ) or Faßberg in Germany where the squadron was disbanded on 3rd July 1945 but not the Great Britain rather. The Ju-88G D5+GH came to the Ireland flown by German crew on the 5th May 1945 so she couldn't be in the technical condition in the Netherlands or Germany at that time. Just my opinion.
Crimea_River
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According to Bracken's Spitfire - The Canadians, the pic on the left above was taken at Wunsdorf.
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SaparotRob
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When I watch clips of WW II aircraft, I imagine you guys calling out each plane's squadron, pilot, where and when. Then discussing the pilot's prior and next ride.
Intersting info Andy. IIRC the flugplatz in Wünsdorf ( 50km south of Berlin ) was captured by soviets in April 1945. So why would the Canadian Spitfire be at the airfield located in the Russian zone? There is , with no doubt, a damaged Rotol four-blade prop lying on the ground in front of the Ju-88G. IMHO it looks like the airbase of the no. 401 squadron rather. And I haven't found any info the squadron was based at the Wünsdorf.
Crimea_River
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Possibly a typo in the book. Might be Wunstorf, just east of Hanover.
That's it. The airfield was captured with Bf 109s, Fw 190s, Ju 52s and just a couple of Ju 88s. What is more after the battle there , the base was taken over by the RAF including Canadian (RCAF) Wing 126 of the British 2nd TAF and designated as the B-116 Wunstorf. And the airfiled is listed for the Canadian squadron base, 14 April - 12 May 1945 B.116 Wunstorf.
Although no pic shown the IMW site says ... Supermarine Spitfire LF Mark IX, MH847, YO-H, of No.401 Squadron RCAF, parked beside the remains of a Junkers Ju 88G.
BTW .. I would update the list of the captured German kits there ... with at least, one Ju-87 ( damaged) , Siebel Si 204, Fieseler Fi 156 Storch and three Ju 88s more ( one buried outside of a hangar , one incomplete kite and one with the burnt port wing in the hangar).
Here is another image of the captured Ju-88G there.
the source: File:Ju88-wunstorf.jpg - Wikimedia Commons
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It has to be one of the two Ju-88G captured there. On the Asisbis site I have found three images showing the Ju-88Gs in the Wunstorf hangar. Believing the caption the first one with the code 3C+PN Werk Nr. 620643 is of the 5./NJG4 The kite has the starboard engine dismounted. Also the cockpit frame has both parts although painted dark. There is a lack of the port prop and spinner. IMHO it doesn't seen to be the one in Snautzer's post. But the second Ju-88G seen in both pictures partially fits the aircraft appearance as best as possible. The cockpit conopy is not complete, the front part is painted dark and the engine cowling is painted light with mottling at the tops . When faded due to the weather conditions it may look like a dirty light colour. Her serial is 714759. And that's the aircraft IMHO.
the pic source: Junkers Ju 88 G-6 Geschwader Stab NJG4 (3C+DA) WNr 622311 Eggebek 1945
and here the 3C+PN Werk Nr. 620643 at the Wunstorf Germany May 1945 ... still no starboard engine but the lack of the part of the cockpit hood can be noticed as well.
and the appearance of the RCAF 401 Squadron Spitfire LF.IX YO-H at the DeRips in 1944 ...
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