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It looks a lot like a SG4004 Schleppgeräte
IMHO, it is not the jettisoned fuel tank but the SC 1000 bomb.
See Heinkel He177 Greif
Actually not .. it is not similar.
here the SG4004 ...
the one with the SC1000 bomb ...
and the SG 5041 ...
There is something wrong here with the date of this. The aircraft is WNr. 110305 and that became Air Min 50 and was the first to be flown from Schleswig-Land to Farnborough on May 18, 1945. so ith cannot be June 6!
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The time for this photo is not June but early May, 1945. It is taken between May 5 and May 18, 1945. Red 8, WNr. 110305 were flow out from Schleswig-Land on May 18, being captured on May 5.
I haven't been into these picks in 10 years. 305 was the number the Brit's gave it (brushing off cobwebs so fact check). It was handed over to Col. Watson and his Wizzers, flown to letchfield for an overhaul, ferried to milan France with 8 other jets. Put on a ship and taken to New York. Then flown landing in PA to end the journey at Wright Patterson AFB. 2 were lost during the movement. It is possible I am mistaking 305 with 303. I'd half to go over my archives.
GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
It was 305, that was the last three digits of it's WrkNmr: 110305
Refresh my memory, is that the 2 seater at Willow Grove?
2 were brought over. 1 trainer and the other a night fighter
Sorry for my confusion. Looked it up. Red 8 is in Africa. I'm getting old
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Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
Red 8 was initially a two-seat trainer, but was fitted with a radar and used as a "Nachtjager".
No, that is not correct. The two seated night fighters were all converted from single seat to two seat night fighter configuration by Deutche Lufthansa works at Staken near Berlin. There has been a lot of confusion about this, two seated trainer aircrafts fitted with radar to become night fighters.
The fact is, that the only component shared between the trainer and the night fighter was the 400 l rear main fuel tank under the rear cockpit. The rear cockpit of the night fighter are compleatly different to the trainer and NONE trainers were converted into night fighters.
So Red 8 was "born" as a nightfighter in early April 1945 as one of only 7 aircrafts in build as night fighters.
GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
Sorry, no.
Three Me262B-1a two-seat trainers were converted to /U4 nachtjagers by Blohm und Voss at their Wenzendort facility.
The three were WrkNmr 110305, 110306 and 110307.
After conversion, all three were assigned to 10./NJG11 and were Red 8, Red 6 and Red 4, respectively.
Red 4 (110307) was said to have had two MG151/20 cannons fitted in a "schräge muzik" configuration.
I Think you have the wrong end of the stick.
If you dig in the archibes you will find the development trail where the contract das made with DLH Staken. You Will find the delivery details from RLM of the airframes that were sendt to DLH Staken.
B&V was making trainers but were bombed so hard in january 1945 that production stoped, so they never made one nightfighter, for that reason and the fackt that the contract was with DLH and not B&V.
The airframe for WNr. 110305 were producer in january 1945 dockumented by QA stamps on the parts, delivered to DLH Staken in february 1945 and converted to night fighter.
If you read the documents from TLR you will also se the reference to DLH producing the night fighter. Here you will also see reference to WNr. 110307 whitch was a one off single Seat night fighter with radar FuG 218 to test the installation and be test flown by Kurt Walter., delivered by the end of January 1945 and chrached early februar 1945.
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