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Discussion in 'Engines' started by varing, Sep 27, 2008.

  1. varing

    varing New Member

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    Hallo

    Can you tell me what motor is it ?
    (airplane engine seven cylinder radial)
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    Judging by the culinder design and the pushrod arrangement I'd say a Gnome Rhone 7K Titan Major, or licence-built dirivative.

    The bore and stroke should be 146 mm (5.75") and 165 mm (6.5").


    Could you provide any more information on the engine?
     
  3. FLYBOYJ

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    It looks more like a Alexander Ivchenko designed engine, possibly a Vedeneyev - sure about it being 7 cylinders?
     
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    markings inside engine WaA190.(WaA190 Auwearter und Bu-beck Stuttgart 1939) Heereswaffenamt - Wikipedia
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    Perhaps a tank engine?
     
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    Gnome Rhone 14K
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    Actually I think that's a picture of a 14N, though they look very similar.


    And looking at your top photo again, the number of pushrod ports would imply a 14 cylinder engine, so it could be a 14K. (or 14N, and therewere Italian dirivatives as well)
    The reduction gearing seems to be missing though. And the entire rear half of the engine is missing. (which is why you must have thought it was a 7-cylinder engine) Had it not been for that pushrod configuration (with all located at the front, instead of seperate rows front and back) it may have been dificult to realize it was a 14-cylinder engine.

    (It seems I was pretty close with my initial guess ;) )


    The 14K seems to have coarser and more widely spaced cooling finns, while that of the 14N above match your engine more closely. (as well as the Itialian Piaggio P.XI's cooling finns)

    -the 14K mistral major:
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    and the Piaggio P.XI for comparison
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    Can you do some measurements on the cylinder? (the bore should be easy enough given the missing cylinders, but you should be able to get a rough estimation of the stroke from the remaining cylinder)
     
  8. varing

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    Hello again!
    Some more details:cilinder diameter-144 mm, stroke-170 mm
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    perhaps someone please share the information that the engine is it?
     
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    Sweet pictures there Varing, many thanks!!!
     
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    It is soviet M-88 engine because serial numbers and labels, perhaps from Il-4 bomber.
     
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    I am on a phone so not seeing pics too well but I will throw in a suggestion. Armstrong Siddeley Cheetah.
     
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    Yet it also has a German Inspection stamp on it. I've never heard of Russian engines being made for the Germans, so wonder if this was a captured and tested item.

    By the way... the cylinder 'filler' appears to be part of an Estonian cigarette box! (The wonders of Google... :) ):
    VANA PABEROSSI KARP " ORIENT EKSTRA " AKSIISI LIPIK , ILUS ! (63199102) - Osta.ee
     
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