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FLYBOYJ said:I seen documentaries that said the F-80 was the world's first jet, the B-52 was the world's largest combat aircraft, and the P-51 was the fastest WW2 piston fighter!!!
evangilder said:FLYBOYJ said:I seen documentaries that said the F-80 was the world's first jet, the B-52 was the world's largest combat aircraft, and the P-51 was the fastest WW2 piston fighter!!!
Jeeze, were they crockumentaries?!
What is going on here? I thought the BBC was a guarantee of objective, serious work...
Udet said:Boys:
To some extent, such programs -and publications fitting in the same category- are responsible for creating the common belief the USA had a joyride in Europe; defeating Germany was so simple, so fast.
See some images of such documentaries regarding airwarfare over the ETO: the somber and momentous voice of the narrator telling how superior all USAAF planes were -dramatic musical finery added to furhter shock the viewer-, backed by a quick succession of 5 or 6 guncamera shots of allied planes blowing Bf 109s and Fw 190s is more than enough to consolidate the commonly accepted view of the war.
plan_D said:While all that is very nice, and I certainly like to take the view of the defeated ...but without degrading the attempts of the victors (like some people ...on here), we still won. So let me just stand up and do the victory dance because no matter how fantastic and amazingly fantastical ,over-the-top better than us they were ...they lost. The moral of the story is don't lose the war. Or...even better ...just don't start it if you're going to lose.
plan_D said:And I've seen a documentary that said the USS Iowa sunk the Tirpitz in the Atlantic.
plan_D said:While all that is very nice, and I certainly like to take the view of the defeated ...but without degrading the attempts of the victors (like some people ...on here), we still won. So let me just stand up and do the victory dance because no matter how fantastic and amazingly fantastical ,over-the-top better than us they were ...they lost. The moral of the story is don't lose the war. Or...even better ...just don't start it if you're going to lose.
FLYBOYJ said:The picture will always be painted with a slant by the victors to the point where it may seem their adversary was easily defeated
So let me just stand up and do the victory dance
While all that is very nice, and I certainly like to take the view of the defeated ...but without degrading the attempts of the victors (like some people ...on here),
no matter how fantastic and amazingly fantastical ,over-the-top better than us they were ...they lost.
The moral of the story is don't lose the war. Or...even better ...just don't start it if you're going to lose.