F4U in Europe
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BlackSheep
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Being a fanboi of all things American, especially the Corsair, seeing one sporting that paint job just seems wrong..so wrong.
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BlackSheep
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- May 31, 2018
For a real laugh, check out YouTube's Hickok45's review of the Greasegun and it's ROF slightly faster than an American Minuteman's musket in 1776.
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Especially considering the Fleet Air Arm dumped a bunch of them in the seaBeing a fanboi of all things American, especially the Corsair, seeing one sporting that paint job just seems wrong..so wrong.
Peter Gunn
Master Sergeant
Not to mention the Wildcat in front of it.Being a fanboi of all things American, especially the Corsair, seeing one sporting that paint job just seems wrong..so wrong.
In 1941, that was the case, not surprisingly. II/ JG26 was the only Gruppe to convert to the Fw 190 in the autumn and and so didn't cause many FC losses, before things wound down for the winter. As the rest of JG 26 and JG 2 converted during the winter and spring, Fw 190's rightly deserve the credit for the high FC losses in 1942.
Clayton Magnet
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I remember reading about that, everyone in attendance assumed the brand new Typhoon would come in first, followed by the Fw 190, with the lowly Spitfire bringing up the rear. However, much to the delight of those in the know, the order was the exact opposite
BlackSheep
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New Zealand? "The Old Stick and Rudder Co" Luckily, I am an old pro at the search bar and a first generation internet geek..although the Donald Duck graphic through me off at first..
I would love to visit that museum in Masterson, it reminds me of the Champlain Fighter Museum near my home in Arizona. I've got a couple of friends from New Zealand that travel back and forth, restrictions permitting, perhaps they'll allow me to tag along as a third wheel sometime.
Thumpalumpacus
Major
Being a fanboi of all things American, especially the Corsair, seeing one sporting that paint job just seems wrong..so wrong.
I built a Corsair model as a kid, I want to say it was Airfix but I don't rightly remember, which came as a RNZAF plane; F4U1-D, maybe? Anyway, I liked the look of the two-tone roundels on the paint-scheme of darker blue over grey.
DarrenW
Staff Sergeant
Speaking strictly about the late '43/early '44 time frame (without the cumbersome wing pylons installed), maximum level speed of the P-47D was marginally better than the F6F-3 up to 5,000 feet when both are using military power (52" Hg) and WEP (56" Hg and 60" Hg) respectively. At sea level the F4U-1 in military power was still faster than the P-47D utilizing 56" Hg but it slowly lost this edge as altitude increased unless it too used war emergency power.
The F6F-3 and F4U-1 could climb about 25 percent faster than the P-47D equipped with the Curtis 'toothpick' propeller (714 model) while using military power (52" Hg). The P-47D with this same propeller could only match the average climb rate of the two naval fighters when it used a higher manifold pressure of 56" Hg (F6F-3 and F4U-1 still using 52"Hg). Once the paddle blade propeller was installed in early 1944 the P-47D using 56" Hg exceeded the climb rate of the F6F-3 and F4U-1 (both using only military power). However about this same time the Corsair and Hellcat received ADI which then gave them a superior rate of climb below 10,000 feet. Not until the availability of 100/150 fuel and even higher authorized boost (summer 1944) did the Thunderbolt once again out-climb the two naval fighters.
As far as survivability is concerned, all three aircraft were very robust and could take a lot of punishment. Interestingly, the Hellcat was equipped with armor protection for the oil coolers, which was not the case for the Corsair and Thunderbolt. Lastly, the location of the Thunderbolt's turbo-supercharger (in the bottom belly of the fuselage) made it more vulnerable to ground fire during strafing runs.
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Yes! As it is today, but back then when I took the photo the aircraft was operated by the Old Flying Machine Company and was in RNZAF markings, living at Duxford, England at the time. Today it wears a generic US scheme.
Sadly, the hangar at Masterton has been closed for awhile now as there is a legal stoush going on involving Gene Demarco, The Vintage Aviator's former chief pilot - he was thrown in prison and fined large sums of money and so the aircraft are not on public display at present, although Wings over Wairarapa is looking to go ahead in 2023.
Photos I took in the hangar in 2017.
BlackSheep
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- May 31, 2018
Reply, those are pictures of true beauty, it's surprising how quick they lost their innocence. I wonder how many of today's dashing and daring fighter jocks would run to a flight line where titanium and aluminum are replaced by wood and cloth, that cozy mind-comforting ejection seat replaced by a thatched lawn chair…Yes! As it is today, but back then when I took the photo the aircraft was operated by the Old Flying Machine Company and was in RNZAF markings, living at Duxford, England at the time. Today it wears a generic US scheme.
Sadly, the hangar at Masterton has been closed for awhile now as there is a legal stoush going on involving Gene Demarco, The Vintage Aviator's former chief pilot - he was thrown in prison and fined large sums of money and so the aircraft are not on public display at present, although Wings over Wairarapa is looking to go ahead in 2023.
Photos I took in the hangar in 2017.
SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
I believe that is the first time I've seen the words comforting and ejection seat used in the same sentence
GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
Considering that during the Great War, a pilot had two choices when things went wrong:
Jump and fall to your death.
Ride it in and die.
Quite a few were known to jump from their burning aircraft as it went down, too.
SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
That's why my military aviation daydream was to be a company clerk.
BlackSheep
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- May 31, 2018
The movie "FlyBoys" showed the pilots being distributed pistols, "in case of fire"…. Don't know how true that scene was but a trauma nurse friend told me that besides bone cancer, burns were the most painful wounds she knew of and I can imagine the 10-15 seconds till crash seeming like an eternity where eating the barrel might seem like the better option.
GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
When I was a kid, photos of WWI were quite common - WWII is further from us now, than WWI was when I was young.
Many of those publications had photos of dead airmen, especially aircrew from bombers and airships.
One of the most memorable, was the deep impression in the soil, of a German officer who jumped from a Zeppelin that had been attacked and was going down in flames.
Many of those publications had photos of dead airmen, especially aircrew from bombers and airships.
One of the most memorable, was the deep impression in the soil, of a German officer who jumped from a Zeppelin that had been attacked and was going down in flames.
Some survived, landing in snow, bushes or trees and in at least one case barbed wire.
Thumpalumpacus
Major
Raoul Lufbery.
