SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
So? Did they make it?
Fairey's best aircraft?
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Just Schmidt
Senior Airman
Not a chance, as the pilot's plan is to merely hedge hop. Should have tried to ground hog...
The Bismarck was sunk by ship launched torpedoes, I think the first time a battleship torpedoes another.
It wasnt until I got an Airfix model of a Battle that I read the "instructions" which also had a brief description, I couldn't believe it had a three man crew and a "bomb aimer", I still find it hard to believe the thing was ever made.
Thumpalumpacus
Major
The Stringbags got two hits on the Bismarck beforehand, setting up the surface action. Without the rudder hit Bismarck would get to safety.
Rodney launched a couple of torpedoes. No one knows if they hit.
The Dorsetshire was sent in for the coup de grace. It seems disputed whether gunfire & torpedoes, or scuttling, sank the ship.
I don't think it matters much, myself. Sunk is sunk.
I always rolled my eyes at the calories burnt by some trying to say it was scuttled and not sunk by the Royal Navy.
It's like trying to argue your Spitfire wasn't destroyed by the Luftwaffe, it just impacted the ground after you jumped out at 18,000 feet.
Thumpalumpacus
Major
To my mind it's a distinction without a difference. If your enemy forces your crew to scuttle, your ship is still lost all the same.
I don't know why I got an "optimistic" for my post from A Admiral Beez Bismarck was sunk by ship launched torpedoes and Rodney fired ship launched torpedoes. I didn't state Rodney sunk the Bismarck, just that it fired torpedoes at it, if the crew aid the process of sinking, that is another issue.
SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
The Bismarck wasn't scuttled because the Kriegsmarine won. It was shot to pieces and going down. Its scuttling was merely a formality. The RN sank it. Get over it.
To my memory, no one argues Hiryu, Soryu, Kaga and Akagi were sunk by the USN at Midway. U.S.S. Langley was sunk by Japanese aircraft during the Battle of the Coral Sea. I'm really annoyed with myself that I can't remember more examples right now but you get my point.
To my memory, no one argues Hiryu, Soryu, Kaga and Akagi were sunk by the USN at Midway. U.S.S. Langley was sunk by Japanese aircraft during the Battle of the Coral Sea. I'm really annoyed with myself that I can't remember more examples right now but you get my point.
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SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
U.S.S. Lexington.
Of course. Goodies always make it.
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Admiral Beez
Major
The poor bomb aimer didn't even get a window, just a hole.
Don't drop your keys or glasses.
And a comforting collection of oxygen bottles to keep him company.The poor bomb aimer didn't even get a window, just a hole.
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Don't drop your keys or glasses.
SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
Finally. I'll be able to get some sleep now.
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Admiral Beez
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D'oh!!
MiTasol
1st Lieutenant
Q flight 100 squadron RAF became 100 squadron RAAF. They flew Australian Beauforts to Singapore and back prior to Singapore's collapse and continued with the type until the end of WW2.
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Admiral Beez
Major
Let's give Malaya an all Fairey air defence. Albacores and Swordfish instead of the Vilderbeest; Hendons (we'll need more produced) instead of Blenheims; Battles instead of Hudsons. Fulmars instead of Buffaloes.
I'd give the Fulmar better odds than the Buffalo. The Buffalo may be faster, but the Fulmar has a much higher cruise speed, longer endurance, better armament, armour protection and a killer armament (8x.303 with 750-1,000 rpg) against IJN/IJAF bombers. Provided the optional .303 mg is included in the rear cabin, the Fulmar has a slight chance against the Ki-27, less so against the Ki-43. I'd want some incendiary rounds in my Fulmar's mgs to light up the unprotected fuel tanks.
I'd give the Fulmar better odds than the Buffalo. The Buffalo may be faster, but the Fulmar has a much higher cruise speed, longer endurance, better armament, armour protection and a killer armament (8x.303 with 750-1,000 rpg) against IJN/IJAF bombers. Provided the optional .303 mg is included in the rear cabin, the Fulmar has a slight chance against the Ki-27, less so against the Ki-43. I'd want some incendiary rounds in my Fulmar's mgs to light up the unprotected fuel tanks.
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