German Guncam footage

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CharlesBronson said:
BF-109 bouncing another fighter at low altitude. I am not sure about the allied aircraft. It looks like a Mustang Mk-1 or a P-51B.
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Looks like another 109 to me
 
Bf-109 in pursuit of a Tomahawk. You can see several 20 mm hits and a lot of debris flying from the P-40. I think that this was a sure kill.
 

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CharlesBronson said:
Bf-109 in pursuit of a Tomahawk. You can see several 20 mm hits and a lot of debris flying from the P-40. I think that this was a sure kill.
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If that was all there was too it, the P-40 may have survived. All the 20mm hits appeared to be to the wings (1 to the left wing, 2 to the right), and the plane still seemed flyable as it banked to the right.

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Lunatic
 
I respect your opinion, but I think that it was a kill...sooner or later.


Several FW-190 attaking a "pulk "of B-24. The lower Liberator is taking heavy damage.
 

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CharlesBronson said:
Several FW-190 attaking a "pulk "of B-24. The lower Liberator is taking heavy damage.
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Must have been a fairly rookie bunch of 190 pilots - they did not seem to press their attack very effectively. Most were not even shooting while in range of the target(s). And they still have their drop tanks on - a very big vulnerablity when facing .50 API rounds.

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Lunatic
 
I have this cine film and the B-24 attacked went down. The pilots during 1944 were ordered by the great Fat One to keep the precious fuel tanks on no matter what was on their tail. Of course many refused to obey this ridiculous order when confronted by P-51's. The attack was by SturmFw's and two other B-24's were attacked in this film series and it appears many hits. True they did not close within a 30 to 50 metre range
 
FW-190A attacking Lagg-5, I am not very sure but seem that the german pilot use only his MG-131 guns because you cant see 20 mm tracers, did you?

Where is Lunatic when you really need him...?
 

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The German pilot may have chosen not to use tracers in his 20mm. They tend to foul the guns more than normal rounds, and the MG131 13mm ballistics are very close to the same as the MG151/20 ballistics, especially if the 20mm are loaded with HE or mine rounds.

Also, near the end after the target is burning he may have been out of 20mm ammo or chosen not to use it. It's really hard to tell given the quality of the film.

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Lunatic
 
Thank for your help.

I also think that probably the FW is out of 20 mm, but if it used non tracers shells is achieving no hits, because the impact flash are caused by the 13 mm HEI ammo.
 
Doesn't the top film indicate the target is a Lagg-5 ? Or is that caption w.r.t. the next clip (not shown)?
 
B-17G bounced.
The german pilot pulling out at the last moment so you actually can see the holes in the right wing created by the 20mm HE shells.
 

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