German Guncam footage

[lesofprimus]

I think itd be great to post that info erich.... I wont be reading it, but I think it could be useful for some here that truly cannot gauge what modern combat can do to the human body...

I myself have seen enough to last 3 lifetimes.....

 

[Erich]

I understand Les fully............

maybe I will.

A B-24 on 27 September 1944. one still from a film clip. the a/c is attacked on the right side and the Fw 190 pilot slides over on the bombers left side, takes out the tail gunner and then tears the wing and engines apart on the left with his M rounds. the right inner engine is hit so bad that it nearly burns off the wing, a very strange vapor cloud immerges

 

[Anonymous]

That's a fuel fire Erich.

As for the tanks, it appears you are right the tanks were present. However, by 1944, and perhaps earlier, they were low pressure oxygen tanks and in fact also had nitrogen in the air.

I'm trying to find more details, but I think the O2 generators fed O2 tanks, which then provided O2 to the crew. The tanks could not be filled while being used. I'm sure they were nasty when hit, but not nearly so much so as high pressure bottles.

I'll be searching on this a bit more, I need to find the page where I read about the use of O2 generators in WWII.

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[Erich]

note the vaporizing cloud where the inboard right engine should be. also the small fire on the left inboard engine..........

I'll see if I can get this enlarged into the wmv format in a month or so.

 

[evangilder]

If I can offer a word of advice when researching on the web; always double check the info. I have seen things on the web that can be directly contradicted on another web site. When I prepare presentations, I typically use anywhere from 8-12 sources for about 8-10 typed pages of info. It takes longer to get the info, but nothing is worse than presenting wrong info.

 

[Anonymous]

Yes the web is always a risky source of info. Sites that give sources are usually pretty reliable though.

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[the lancaster kicks ass]

don't trust TG planes..........

 

[evangilder]

Usually yes, but I still check. I have been editing documents in the past and checked to find I transposed a number or had fingers on the wrong keys. It is possible that someone else could do the same.

 

[hellmaker]

Lucky me I'm a student and I have a powerfull network connection... I'll download it in a matter of minutes and tell you all about it...
I'm sorry... I'm only kiddin...It's not in my nature to mock someone... But I do hope I'll see the clip quite in a short while...
... I'm edditing this message..
I've just seen the movie and it's both terrifing and awsome...

 

[cheddar cheese]

Yeah I seen it too, s'good 8)

 

[CharlesBronson]

And here is another, this is a guncam from a BF-109 in wich you can see a Messer attacking a Spitfire wich is already shooting at one Ju-88

 

[hellmaker]

Man... those clips are great... cold blooded camera-men... It's terrifing only looking at them... just imagine how it wold have been for the pilots who actually took part in that dogfight(given they survived) to see this mini-movie... I guess it wuold have been a turn on...

 

[CharlesBronson]

A clasic, B-17 blasted by large calibre explosive shells.

 

[Anonymous]

I think in the "30mm" film, those are actually 20mm.

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[CharlesBronson]

Attack on Hurricanes, spitfires, P-40 and B-17

 

[Anonymous]

What I find most interesting about all GE guncam footage against Allied fighters is how very close they had to get. Allied guncam footage, especially American, shows that they could fire from 2-3 times that range for good effect.

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[CharlesBronson]

I read sometime a phrase atributed to Hartmann wich was: " Get close...until he fill the windscreen"

Sure it work for him.

 

[the lancaster kicks ass]

well was it because our gunsights were better than theirs??

 

[Anonymous]

No, it was because they had one 20mm with poor ballistics and two 7.9mm's with poor ballistics. You had to get close to land hits, and with only 150 rounds of ammo in the 20mm, you could not waste it on longer shots.

With six .50's with 270 or 400 rpg, with excellent ballistics, you could score from further out and you could afford the ammo to take the longer shots.

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[CharlesBronson]

BF-109 bouncing another fighter at low altitude. I am not sure about the allied aircraft. It looks like a Mustang Mk-1 or a P-51B.