Groundhog Thread Part Deux - P-39 Fantasy and Fetish - The Never Ending Story (Mods take no responsibility for head against wall injuries sustained)

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Agree with pretty much everything you said.

The "tumble" could be entered by some and not others after a contrived effort (nose ammo expended, climbing vertically to the stall, etc). A little knowledge could keep you out of a lot of trouble.

It would overheat on the ground if you taxied too long, but for normal operation with this type it wasn't a concern. Forward visibility during taxi was good enough to drive it like a car to the end of the runway, perform your mag and prop checks and take off.

Wouldn't cool to Army hot day cooling requirements during maximum climb but was tolerable for 5 minutes and cooled well at normal operations.
 
A lot of the British (and Continental) prewar grass fields were actually carefully prepared with attentioned paid to drainage, filling in low spots and rolling the field periodically.
If you can find it the 1938 "Jane's all the World's Aircraft" has a section on airfields/aerodromes with a number of pictures. I mention this edition as it was reprinted by Arco in 70s(?) and may be easier to find than an original.

Some airfield were actual circular for the flying surface with hangers and terminal/tower on one side, paved aprons in heavy traffic areas with grass flying surfaces.
 
Which were probably a lot smoother than those at Port Moresby.
What about those USSR fields? Betcha the Ivans did a lot of taxiing and TO/Ldg with the stick right back in their laps. They still thought it was one of the best fighters they had.
Cheers,
Wes
 
AS to the airfieldS at Port Moresby :

Port Moresby Airfield Complex - Wikipedia.

Please note that the Americans had used 7 mile Drome to stage through when they ferried B-17s to the Philippines in Sept of 1941.
The article is not clear as to exactly when the air strips got PSP (like what month) but from the descriptions the Port Moresby air strips were not crude or significantly lacking in engineering support.
 
Berry Airfield (12 Mile Drome)

The airfield was constructed in early 1942, being completed on 15 May. The airfield had an 8-inch base of crushed rock and pit gravel for a single earth runway approximately 4,500' by 150.

40th and 80th FS USAAF with P-39s stationed there.
 
What about those USSR fields? Betcha the Ivans did a lot of taxiing and TO/Ldg with the stick right back in their laps. They still thought it was one of the best fighters they had.
Cheers,
Wes

Hello XBe02Drvr,

Maybe Ivan thought it was one of their best fighters because other aircraft also had their own issues.

Хотя трехколесное шасси обеспечивало прекрасный обзор на рулении и взлете, и в принципе позволяло перемещаться по аэродрому с большой скоростью, не опасаясь капотирования, на неровных грунтовых аэродромах носовая стойка вибрировала и нередко ломалась, что вынуждало ограничивать скорость руления.

Although the three-wheeled chassis provided excellent visibility on taxiing and take-off, and in principle allowed to move around the airfield at high speed without fear of nosing, on uneven ground airfields the nose strut vibrated and often broke, which made it necessary to limit the taxi speed.

from:
Недостатки P-39 Аэрокобра

- Ivan.
 
Hello Corsning,

Look on Page 191 of AHT.
I tried to do a scan of that page but I do not have scanning software on my laptop and GIMP seems to have issues with the scanner which is why the model designations are cropped. The engine variants are still readable, so this should be sufficient.
The original source I found had slightly different information on it.
Manifold Pressure was in the high 50's (maybe 57 or 59 inches Hg) and power was only 1550 HP.

- Ivan.

 
That's pretty much what I understood from what I've read on the Russian sites. No WEP until the P-39D-2/K. So no more power than the Tomahawk had and that entered service in 1940.
 
Hello Corsning,
No problem!
You caught me at just the right time. I am just packing for a trip.
In a couple hours I won't have access to my laptop or to all the books at home, so with just a cell phone for Internet access, I won't be posting anything for a couple days.

Hello Kevin J,
You presume this is the only reference there is. It most certainly is not.
It just happened to be the easiest place to find what I needed to address one specific point.
As Shortround6 and I were discussing earlier, by late 1942, there was a WEP specification even for the early V-1710-35.
You can see the Allison memo to address what the services were ALREADY doing in the field.
I am stating specifically that WEP was used by the P-39D or D-1 (not D-2, not K) that was tested against Koga's A6M2 starting September 1942.
At least that is what the books say.
One has to wonder why the K was not tested against A6M2 since it begin production in July.

You can of course believe what you will. There is also a Russian manual for the P-39 with the Allison E4 engine (V-1710-35) and I have translated parts of it and found some fairly cool stuff but haven't gone looking for the power settings.

- Ivan.
 
My understanding was that WEP was only allowed in the V-1710-39 of the P-40D/E from the beginning,not the V-1710-35/37 of the P-39C/D/D-1.
 

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