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I could look it up, I do know that the Battle of Britain was started before either side had it, but the Germans had more need for it they were most likely to run out of fuel. There was an issue with the RAF shooting down rescue planes. The Germans also had tethered buoys that a pilot could get into off the French coast.I'm guessing you kind of already know.
If there was no German air superiority over the Channel, why were the Merchant Fleet and the RN expelled from the Channel ?On 8 August even the coastal traffic in the Channel was stopped .In July and August 1940 the LW did sink 35 British merchant vessels ( 100000 GRT ) in the Home Waters ( Eagle in Flames P 43 )Pretty much every statement in that post is complete and utter garbage. The Luftwaffe NEVER had air superiority over the Channel. They were never able to operate freely over the Channel except close to the French coast.
Regardless, what does air superiority over the Channel have to do with the UK's ability to rescue downed pilots? Have you ever heard of these things - apparently they were rather successful:
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You say there was danger for British fighters being bounced over the Channel...but that's EXACTLY where the UK's "useless" radar was looking, and the air defence network could warn any formation before being bounced.
Radius of action for British and German fighters may have been limited (compared to the later P-51, for example) but it wasn't so short that operations couldn't be maintained over the Channel.
A long way divided by two,because the aircraft had to retrurn to Britain .Yes, that was his decision, because pilots are more important than planes, he also instructed pilots not to chase the LW back to France. The 18 August is known as "the hardest day" having the biggest losses on both sides. Within gliding distance of the coast is a long way at 25,000ft.
If there was no German air superiority over the Channel, why were the Merchant Fleet and the RN expelled from the Channel ?On 8 August even the coastal traffic in the Channel was stopped .In July and August 1940 the LW did sink 35 British merchant vessels ( 100000 GRT ) in the Home Waters ( Eagle in Flames P 43 )
Til August 19 British fighters attacked the LW over the Channel when it came back from mission as did the LW 3 years later when BC returned to Britain .
You dont understand the term air superiority and supremacy, how many planes did the LW lose to achieve that? If the Germans had Air Superiority how come the RAF were destroying landing barges and shooting down rescue planes. Dowding didnt want to trade boats for planes and pilots.If there was no German air superiority over the Channel, why were the Merchant Fleet and the RN expelled from the Channel ?On 8 August even the coastal traffic in the Channel was stopped .In July and August 1940 the LW did sink 35 British merchant vessels ( 100000 GRT ) in the Home Waters ( Eagle in Flames P 43 )
Til August 19 British fighters attacked the LW over the Channel when it came back from mission as did the LW 3 years later when BC returned to Britain .
Until late August,the British had no air-sea rescue operation.( Eagle in Flames P 16 )
Civilian or Military?I'm guessing you kind of already know.
I know. I read your post on it a while back. Very informative. I'm just getting into the spirit of this thread, "Everything We Know is Wrong".Civilian or Military?
Yes, this is a serious question
(Hint: Seenotdienst)
Agreed on the thread name.I know. I read your post on it a while back. Very informative. I'm just getting into the spirit of this thread, "Everything We Know is Wrong".
The Shetlands also had a garrison of about 20,000Since I can't access my books easily, I checked on the internet (Not Wiki) and found Iceland was occupied against invasion by 30,000 British troops and U.S. Marines. Hardly enough to recapture a captured Britain or invade Europe. The reason the Marines were called was because Britain needed her troops back. The total max at the high point of occupation was 30,000 combined men.
Divided by two?? Where did you learn about gliding? A clean monoplane like a Spit or a Hurri should have glide ratio of about 12-15:1. Let's say 13 just for grins. Out of fuel at 25,000 feet, and let's say lose 500 feet in the turn back home, and we want to cross the English coast at 2500 feet to reach an airfield, so that we have 22,000 feet or 4.16 miles of altitude to glide off. 4.16 times 13 = 54.17 miles gliding range to cross the coast at 2500 feet. How wide is the Channel on the track LW typically used?A long way divided by two,because the aircraft had to retrurn to Britain .
Thanks I always wondered how far away from UK a P-51 could run out of fuel and glide in.Divided by two?? Where did you learn about gliding? A clean monoplane like a Spit or a Hurri should have glide ratio of about 12-15:1. Let's say 13 just for grins. Out of fuel at 25,000 feet, and let's say lose 500 feet in the turn back home, and we want to cross the English coast at 2500 feet to reach an airfield, so that we have 22,000 feet or 4.16 miles of altitude to glide off. 4.16 times 13 = 54.17 miles gliding range to cross the coast at 2500 feet. How wide is the Channel on the track LW typically used?
But he knows 2 key things: (1) he's right, and (2) the rest of us are idiots.