Günther Rall Me 109G-2

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    #1 P-40K-5, Jan 10, 2011
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    any good clear pics you gentleman can provide would be
    greatly appreciated. colour photo's would be awesome.
    around the summer/fall 1942. thanks in advance!
     
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    Don't know about any high quality photos, but there's always beautiful artwork of Claes Sundin...

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    Messerschmitt Bf 109 G-2 flown by Oberleutnant Günther Rall, 8./JG 52, Soldatskaya, Soviet Union, 29 September 1942

    Oberleutnant Rall flew his first mission with "Black 13" on 31 August 1942, and from mid-September 1942 it was his regular aircraft. Between 16 September and 6 October 1942, all Rall's 35 combat missions were flown with "Black 13", and during this period he increased his victory score from 76 to 91. Rall flew "Black 13" in action as late as mid-January 1943, after which he changed to regularly flying "Black 1". All according to Rall's logbook.
     
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    that pic I do have. his site is pretty good. I just see so many different colour dipictions of black 13 its mind boggling lol. just trying to determine whats the correct shades. and I know that even colour photos are not the most accurate do to age, but I was hoping somebody had 1 or 2 reasonable ones.

    thanks!
     
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    Aha, I understand. So far, I only managed to find this one picture. Not much of the aircraft is visible I'm afraid, apart from some details on fuselage mottling around the cockpit...
     
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    nice pics, thanks. looks like the bottom right pic the spinner prop are
    black-green?
     
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    Yup, RLM 70.
     
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    thanks, thats another confirmed colour at least.
     
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    The rest would have been standard 74/75/76 scheme, and 04 yellow obvioulsy.
     
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    where does this particular ship use light blue?
     
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    The 'light blue' I presume would be the RLM76, which is a light grey-blue shade, used on the underside and up the fuselage sides and fin.
     
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    correct me if I'm wrong but is it this colour your
    refering too?

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    No, that looks more like the 74 or 75. Look at the profile in Post 2 which is very good. RLM 76 is underneath the wings and is the base coat on the fuselage sides underneath the sprayed blotches. The blotches look to be both 74 and 75, judging from the photos in post 5.
     
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    thanks, I now have a much clearer picture of how it all went together.
     
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    P-40K-5, approximately as follows:

    More precisely, according to a black and white photographs of the spots on the sides, hard to say. Variants are possible. So it is with the hood.
    Sorry for my bad English
     

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    The spotted nature of the fuselage camo leads one to believe it came from the Erla factory.

    erla painted their 109s with the standard pattern post august 41 but with a 'saw toothed' demarcation

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    WNF and Mtt Regensburg had different styles of fuselage camouflage and can be ruled out
     
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    thanks guys for the additional pics information. much apprciated.
    another question is you don't mind..

    General Rall also flew an Me 109G-6 without the wing cannons. this aircraft
    I have found a total of zero actual photo's of it. anybody have any? I've
    seen plastic models of it but the accuracy is questionable. thanks!
     
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    so... anybody have any actual photo's of Rall's Me 109G-6 ?!?
     
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    Nothing else from me I'm afraid.
     
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    Haven't found one yet, but still looking !
     
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