H-44?

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  1. Lucky13

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    Pic comment says 'Tirpiz and H-44 battleship'.....
    H-44 battleship??

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    H-class ships were the requirement for "Plan Z"...

    H-39 class called for 6 ships, basically oversized Bismarks

    H-41 class was an improved H-39 class

    H-42/H-43 class was to be larger and up-gunned

    H-44 class were to be monsters.

    None were built.

    What's in that photo is most likely either the Bismark or Tirpitz with a Cruiser alongside
     
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    Aaaah....
    Somewhat remember something about a Plan Z, but that was it! :lol:

    Cheers mate!
     
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    #4 GrauGeist, Aug 13, 2014
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    Wait a second...someone's pulling our leg...the smaller ship is either the Tirpitz or Bismark.

    They only had a single funnel. That has to be a model/diarama.

    * ok, did some looking around and found that the photos was, in fact, a diarama. The Tirpitz is shown as the BB on the left, the hypothetical H-44 being on the right.

    Here's a good link that covers Plan-Z:
    http://strangevehicles.greyfalcon.us/Z.htm
     
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    #5 Wavelength, Aug 13, 2014
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    Its a photo shopped gag. I've seen the original photo. It was Tirpitz from a recon Spitfire in mid 44.

    On edit: Correction the original was right after the X-craft attack Sept 43 in Kaa fjord (near Alta)
     
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    Well, they did have some high flying plans! :shock:

    Weapons

    40,6 cm SK L/47: 8
    15,5 cm L/55: 12
    10,5 cm L/45 C/32: 16
    3,7 cm L/83: 16
    2 cm FlaMG L/65: 24
    53,3 cm Torpedoes: 6
     
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    Noticed the 2 stacks as well. I worry about the historical record in 50 years with all this photo editing going on.
     
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    Turns out that photo was created (long before photoshop) to show the relative size comparison of the H-44 class compared to the Tirpitz/Bismark.

    They would have certainly been monsters and created a terrible threat to Allied shipping but unless the Luftwaffe could keep the skies clear of Allied warplanes, would have ended up exactly the same as the Yamato...
     
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    Just look at the size of the barrels on the forward guns.
     
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    I think a lot of the crazier plans for plan Z battleships might have come about because there was a choice. Sit in a warm design office and draw up increasingly crazy plans for the mad Charlie Chaplin impersonator or walk about the Russian Steppe carrying a rifle. Certainly sir you want a design for a 200,00ton battleship with triangular gun barrels capable of doing 50 knots I will get right to it and get back to you with the first draft in a year or so.
     
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    no oil to run them
    no steel to build them with
    no men to crew them with
    better to build 100 subs or an armored division with all that steel
     
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    You mean like this?

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    Ju588.jpg
     
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