Lucky13
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Pic comment says 'Tirpiz and H-44 battleship'.....
H-44 battleship??
H-44 battleship??
H-44?
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GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
H-class ships were the requirement for "Plan Z"...
H-39 class called for 6 ships, basically oversized Bismarks
H-41 class was an improved H-39 class
H-42/H-43 class was to be larger and up-gunned
H-44 class were to be monsters.
None were built.
What's in that photo is most likely either the Bismark or Tirpitz with a Cruiser alongside
H-39 class called for 6 ships, basically oversized Bismarks
H-41 class was an improved H-39 class
H-42/H-43 class was to be larger and up-gunned
H-44 class were to be monsters.
None were built.
What's in that photo is most likely either the Bismark or Tirpitz with a Cruiser alongside
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Lucky13
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Aaaah....
Somewhat remember something about a Plan Z, but that was it!
Cheers mate!
Somewhat remember something about a Plan Z, but that was it!
Cheers mate!
GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
Wait a second...someone's pulling our leg...the smaller ship is either the Tirpitz or Bismark.
They only had a single funnel. That has to be a model/diarama.
* ok, did some looking around and found that the photos was, in fact, a diarama. The Tirpitz is shown as the BB on the left, the hypothetical H-44 being on the right.
Here's a good link that covers Plan-Z:
http://strangevehicles.greyfalcon.us/Z.htm
They only had a single funnel. That has to be a model/diarama.
* ok, did some looking around and found that the photos was, in fact, a diarama. The Tirpitz is shown as the BB on the left, the hypothetical H-44 being on the right.
Here's a good link that covers Plan-Z:
http://strangevehicles.greyfalcon.us/Z.htm
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Wavelength
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Its a photo shopped gag. I've seen the original photo. It was Tirpitz from a recon Spitfire in mid 44.
On edit: Correction the original was right after the X-craft attack Sept 43 in Kaa fjord (near Alta)
On edit: Correction the original was right after the X-craft attack Sept 43 in Kaa fjord (near Alta)
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Lucky13
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Well, they did have some high flying plans! 
Weapons
40,6 cm SK L/47: 8
15,5 cm L/55: 12
10,5 cm L/45 C/32: 16
3,7 cm L/83: 16
2 cm FlaMG L/65: 24
53,3 cm Torpedoes: 6
Weapons
40,6 cm SK L/47: 8
15,5 cm L/55: 12
10,5 cm L/45 C/32: 16
3,7 cm L/83: 16
2 cm FlaMG L/65: 24
53,3 cm Torpedoes: 6
Crimea_River
Marshal
Noticed the 2 stacks as well. I worry about the historical record in 50 years with all this photo editing going on.
GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
Turns out that photo was created (long before photoshop) to show the relative size comparison of the H-44 class compared to the Tirpitz/Bismark.
They would have certainly been monsters and created a terrible threat to Allied shipping but unless the Luftwaffe could keep the skies clear of Allied warplanes, would have ended up exactly the same as the Yamato...
Crimea_River
Marshal
Just look at the size of the barrels on the forward guns.
fastmongrel
1st Sergeant
I think a lot of the crazier plans for plan Z battleships might have come about because there was a choice. Sit in a warm design office and draw up increasingly crazy plans for the mad Charlie Chaplin impersonator or walk about the Russian Steppe carrying a rifle. Certainly sir you want a design for a 200,00ton battleship with triangular gun barrels capable of doing 50 knots I will get right to it and get back to you with the first draft in a year or so.
kettbo
Senior Airman
no oil to run them
no steel to build them with
no men to crew them with
better to build 100 subs or an armored division with all that steel
no steel to build them with
no men to crew them with
better to build 100 subs or an armored division with all that steel
