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Perhaps the gunship could work in concert with a team of Tiffies or Jugs, who's job was to sweep the area for flak batteries prior to the heavy's gun-run?
Then let's change the theatre to where it might be useful. We can all list off the reasons why a B-17 CAS gunship wouldn't, couldn't or shouldn't be feasible. The fun is in overcoming our contrarian tendencies and trying to make it work with the technology at hand. Even if we fail miserably like World War II's Worst Airplane and Second World War Weapons That Failed.This isn't New Guinea. German AA is solid. Get in, shoot up, GTFO. Do low-and-slow at your own peril.
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Neutralizing flak was not easy and generally only temporarily. An orbiting gunship would had a very short life expectancy.
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One pass only. Any flak position not destroyed on the first pass would come back in to action
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It was able to keep up with B-17s when loaded with bombs, but not on the return back.
More HP was needed.
Postwar, USN Privateers, very similar to the B-24, were retrofitted with R-2600 from the B-25 for better performance
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with only minor work to mate up.
One way to improve that return home performance.
That said, The Gunship escort never worked well for anybody
Yes, that was all private by the eyeball and tape measure hangar engineering(Looks like that will fit!), I should have had wrote 'surplus ex-USN Privateers' to make that more clear.I'm pretty sure those R-2600s were added when the PB4Ys were converted postwar (by civilian companies, not the USN) for water-bombing forest fires in the western US. I am certainly willing to be proven wrong, though.
Um... huh?EXCELLENT Info. Or as the RAF chaps said, "Pukka gen." Sharing widely.
I'm pretty sure those R-2600s were added when the PB4Ys were converted postwar (by civilian companies, not the USN) for water-bombing forest fires in the western US. I am certainly willing to be proven wrong, though.
I believe you are correct.Yes, that was all private by the eyeball and tape measure hangar engineering(Looks like that will fit!), I should have had wrote 'surplus ex-USN Privateers' to make that more clear.
Was solid enough that the company got the FAA to do a STC on that.
A-26 saw the end of WWII and the beginning of VietnamComparing modern (late Viet Nam ) era attack aircraft to WW II is a fools errand.
Different guns, different ammo, different bombs/underwing ordnance and.............
much more importantly much different aiming systems and sensor
Kind of depends on at what altitude they were going home at.Point remains, that a few hundred HP more per engine might have been enough for the escort to remain with the lighter bombers on the way home.
Dydh da Peter. As they might say near me. Yer, tis proper job. Duw genes.Um... huh?
Sorry, my midwest vocabulary is failing me on that one.
Um... huh?
Sorry, my midwest vocabulary is failing me on that one.
I knew I could count on a fellow Buff lover.Allow me to translate for you, dear chap!
"Gen" means information, possibly derived from the term "General Information" used in official correspondence. "Pukka" is a borrowed word from the Indian Sub-continent, meaning "solid." Thus "pukka gen" means "solid/reliable/accurate information."
The antonym of pukka gen is duff gen.
Both terms are particularly associated with the RAF but I suspect the terms have a longer heritage than that.
Actually, you are only really at risk from the immediate 2-5 other aircraft in your portion of the box thanks to gravity:A group formation (36 B-17s) would have much less than one cubic mile of airspace in the formation. Said formation would have anywhere from 330 to 400 machine guns pointing in all directions, depending on model. The odds on not catching friendly fire had to be very low.
Actually, you are only really at risk from the immediate 2-5 other aircraft in your portion of the box thanks to gravity:
As you are leading and elevating so your fire hits the attacking fighter, 99.99% of the time before the bullet arrives horizontally at any other block in the box, gravity has pulled it far below (my biggest issue with video games...you fire lasers - no leading/compensating for bullet drop required...)
It's why you see fighters "walk" rounds into the trains/trucks...the drop of the rounds, causes them to fall short, but as you get closer/correct aim, your rounds begin to hit the target.
It's also why a torpedo bomber can't suppress the flak coming at it from the ship; if your aiming your plane so the torpedo arrives where the ship will be, you're pointing to a spot several hundred meters ahead of the target. And your guns firing straight ahead would be firing at air.
As with this RAF B-24 in Italy.A few bombers even got hammered by bombs falling from aircraft above.
That caused a bit more damage than a few stray .50 MG rounds...