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Well i agree that it seems unlikely because of his lack of armament, but the man claims he actually saw them crash! not just smoke. And i have respect for Japanese aces 8)RG_Lunatic said:I find it at best dubious. The Ki-43-I Hayabusa was, at best, armed with one Ho-103 12.7mm with ~300 rounds, and one 7.7mm mg with ~500 rounds. Given the description, there just doesn't seem to be enough ammo to support it. B-24's could generally take a lot of 12.7 mm hits, and a tremendous number of 7.7mm hits.
I'd have to see confirmation of the losses on that date to believe it. The Japanese were notorious for false kill claims.
And just what angle would he be "safe" from the B-24 return fire? There isn't one!
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Mountain recessDaveB.inVa said:This bad boy was supposed to be under development at the end of the war!
Its the Nakajima G10N1 Fugaku (Mount Fuji). It never got off the drawing board though.
The Japanese did have at least one 4 engined heavy bomber during the whole war! It was the Nakajima G5N1 Shinzan (Mountain Recess). There were 6 built in the 40 or 41. They were configured to be heavy bombers but served the entire time as transports!!
They also ended up building the Nakajima G8N Renzan (Mountain Range) ... Yep they liked to name stuff after mountains!!! There were four built and the first flight was in 1944.
GT said:I disagree, Ki 84was extremely fast, it could outstrip the Mustang at low altitudes and Ki 84s tremendous speed at low altitudes made it even more effective.The 2 20mm cannons and 2 heavy-machine guns gave it a good punch and the rate of fire with the 20 mm cannon gave it one of the best hitting power of all a/c armed with double 20mm. Hayate had also excellent maneuverability and the captured Ki-u84-1a could out climb and outmaneuver the P-47 and P-51 tested against.
Chocks away! said:Really? I would like to learn more about thatChiron said:By the way, I heard that during the last stage of war, Japan was acutally developing their own nuclear bomb. Americans actually destoryed a ship that carried enriched nuclear materials.
cheddar cheese said:But being Japanese it wasnt exactly hard to take out.
GT said:Let´s leave the Us testing and see what combat history the Hayate had. The Army fighters Ki-84-1as that fought in Leyte with 1, 11 22, 29, 51, 52, 71, 72 and 200th Sentais and proved itself to be a redoubtable adversary and Ki 841a could out-climb and outmaneuver all Allied fighters, and at medium and low altitude it was as fast as the P-51D and P-47D and Ki 84 1a was faster than all other Allied aircraft's.
Because the Hayate was so enthusiastically received by operational pilots the improved Ki 84 was fitted with various models of the Ha-45, culminating in the model 23 (Ha-45-23) a modification of the more common Army Type 4 Model (Ha-45-21), fitted with a low-pressure fuel injection-system engine and that was after the operations in the Philippines. GT