Is Spitfire relly superior to FW-190?

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Well the P-38L could climb with anything single engined. As for manoverability, they could turn with anything, especially at altitude.

Zero too??

I think the P-38 could turn with just about anything.

 

[FLYBOYJ]

It could easily outclimb and out dive it. Turning with it wasnt too easy, but there are reports the Richard Bong managed to turn with them.

He actually would throttle back the engine on the inside of the turn and add more power on the outboard engine. This is more difficult than it sounds. If you get uncoordinated on the controls or on the throttles you spin, if you're low, you spin and die!

 

[the lancaster kicks ass]

it also took forever to go from cruise configuration to combat configuration...........

and CC, i think you're problem is that the new FW, is just that, because it's new, if it looked aged i bet you wouldn't tell a difference.........

 

[cheddar cheese]

Wow! I never knew how he managed it, but that sounds very difficult but also like a viable explanation 8)

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

I never said the fuselage looked different, I just said I think the size was different. I think the aircraft just looks new like Lanc said.

 

[FLYBOYJ]

it also took forever to go from cruise configuration to combat configuration...........

The P-38?

 

[FLYBOYJ]

Wow! I never knew how he managed it, but that sounds very difficult but also like a viable explanation 8)

I think he also threw some flap in there as well, especially if he was slow.

 

[the lancaster kicks ass]

it also took forever to go from cruise configuration to combat configuration...........

The P-38?

yes

 

[cheddar cheese]

Well not forever, but it was rather a lengthy process.

 

[the lancaster kicks ass]

yes but if you've just been bounced from behined it's not ideal is it.........

 

[cheddar cheese]

Just go into a dive. That should see em off

 

[the lancaster kicks ass]

if you've ust been bounced from behind diving is unlikely to be your first course of action, think about it, there's someone behind you shooting at you, do you try and turn to get into a position where you can shoot back, or put the stick straight forward and loose all your altitude??

 

[cheddar cheese]

Id dive. During the dive id engage combat configuration. Then id pull up and out climb the other guy.

 

[the lancaster kicks ass]

you assume the other man had followed you, and do you really think, that after you have, on instinct , dived after being bounced, you'd be able to switch to combat configuration whilst under severe G forces?? wouldn't you be using all your effort to concentrate on perhaps pulling out of your dive?? and you'd loose allot of speed again during the climb back up to meet your oponent, where you're easy prey again, what are you gonna do to get your speed up again?? dive??

 

[cheddar cheese]

dive mildy in a spiral. The power will easily build the speed up. Besides, if you are experienced in a P-38 then switching to combat configuration should be like second nature, and not take that long.

 

[the lancaster kicks ass]

but many many more pilots were lost in P-38s due to lack of experience than those who did become experienced.........

 

[cheddar cheese]

Lack of training. Not the planes fault.

 

[the lancaster kicks ass]

well perhaps if the plane was designed to be easier to fly??

 

[cheddar cheese]

Well it was fairly easy to fly if you know how. But going from a simple single engined trainer to a big, powerful twin engined with an unorthodox twin boom layout isnt the most moderated step-up ever.

 

[the lancaster kicks ass]

yes however that should to be considdered in the design, if a plane's hard to fly that's the plane's fault, it's not to do with the level of training..............