IS THIS A JOKE?!? NCO PILOTS?!?!?

[mkloby]

do you really think an officer could live with himself if he knowingly sent a soldier out to the feild with malfunctioning equipment

Sadly - things like that will happen. One of the simulator instructors I had in Corpus Christi was an F-4 pilot. He was doing a functional check flight on a bird that was later found to have falsified maint. records. The a/c went down and luckily he survived only losing a leg.

The aviation maintenance officer and chief received courts martial.

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Question for you Adler - in the Army, do the pilots (comm and WOs) leave their squadrons and do tours with training command and other non operational units in between operational tours?

Not really. They remain in operational units there whole career unless they wish to have an assignment some place else.

All WO in the Army have to track something. What I mean by that is: Instructer Pilot, Safety, Maintenance Test Pilot, etc...

They do have to go to school for that later on and that determines where there career goes.

They can also request assignments at training schools to better there flying skills or to be in training units such as NTC, etc.

 

[Maestro]

and you know absolutely nothing about it we may not have had the best of equipment but we knew how to maintain and use it Please try and get your info from something more substanial then the local sensationalist news

Ahhhh... Another f*cking brainwashed Canadian Army officer. Just out of interrest, what rank are you ? Lieutenant-Colonel ? Colonel ? Or may be even a Genaral ? You must be pretty high ranked if you start believing your own bullsh*t...

We saw it with that Sea King, the malfunctioning anti-tank rocket, the army tank detachements that can not even go out of CFB Valcartier onto Boulvard Henry IV without losing 1/5 of their vehicles due to break downs (I saw it with my own eyes), land vehicles being displayed in a showroom with huge cookie plates underneath to prevent oil from falling directly on the ground (once again, I saw it with my own eyes), the "new" submarine catching fire, the CF-18 losing an engine bearing somewhere over the Lac-Saint-Jean area, the other CF-18 losing an unarmed bomb near Cold Lake... Do you want me to carry on ?

What are you talking about? I served with a German, Canadian, Mexican and Haitian. None of them Dual Citizenship.

You can enlist in the US military as a forign national, you just can not be an officer.

Okay... But did they try to enlist directly into the US army or was it some kind of "international transfer" like Hussars said ?

Because I clearly remember contacting a recruiting officer in the US and she told me that I could not enlist in the US army unless I was American born or Naturalized.

I'm not trying to proove you wrong, I'm just wondering.

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Okay... But did they try to enlist directly into the US army or was it some kind of "international transfer" like Hussars said ?

Because I clearly remember contacting a recruiting officer in the US and she told me that I could not enlist in the US army unless I was American born or Naturalized.

I'm not trying to proove you wrong, I'm just wondering.

No they enlisted directly into the US Army.

The German is now out of the Army working in Denmark. Never had US citizenship.

The Mexican is now in an elite aviation unit. Never had US citizenship.

The Haitian is now at Warrant Officer Candidate School to become a Helicopter Maintenance Specialist. Never had US citizenship.

The Canadian is now a UH-64D Apache Longbow pilot. Never had US citizenship.

I am still in contact with the Canadian and German.

 

[Maestro]

Okay... Thanks Adler.

I need to kick some recruiting officer asses, then...

From an E-mail dated May 9th, 2005 :

Yan

Thank you for your interest in the United States Army.

Unfortunately, you must be an American citizen or lawfully admitted to the US for permanent residency. The Immigration and Naturalization Service can provide information; go to http://uscis.gov/graphics/. Army regulations prohibit us from assisting or sponsoring you in to the United States. Once you have an I-551 (green card) or a document reflecting "processing for an I-551", you can pursue enlistment.

Good luck!

Respectfully,
Belinda Ryman
Cyber Recruiter
United States Army Recruiting Command

I went to that site and I realized that to receive a "green card", I had to find an employer willing to give me a job in the US. So, according to her, I need to find a job in the US to get my green card to then apply in the US army... Sweet.

May be I should try my luck again with a different recruiter...

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Yeah that is true about the green card. All of my friends who I served with had a green card.

 

[Maestro]

... And that's the tough part. There are three ways (that I know of) to get a green card.

1 - The Green Card Lottery. (I remember falling on that site a while back, unfortunately Canada wasn't listed in the "elligible countries".)

2 - To marry an American girl.

3 - Find a "private" employer (non-gouvernmental) who would give me a job. But who would "import" a security officer when there is already a lot of them in the US ?

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Good luck...

 

[Jugulator]

... And that's the tough part. There are three ways (that I know of) to get a green card.


2 - To marry an American girl.

And you gotta live with her too. They will check up on you to make sure the marriage is legit. If it's not, guess who gets deported?

 

[Maestro]

Yeah... They do the same thing in Canada. You must live with the girl for a full year.