Japan and Japanese

[Greg Boeser]

Mission impossible.

On December 1, according to a resident of Yakushima Island where an Osprey crashed, US Forces in Okinawa offered islanders to meet with the fishermen who helped the rescue and search for missing crew to interview on the detailed situation at the time as well as to express gratitude. On the next day, two personnels came but they could not speak Japanese. Yakushima islanders do not speak English either.

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MSN

www.msn.com

That's what we call SNAFU.
Situation Normal, All F###ed Up.

 

[MiTasol]

and is a classic example of the other M I -- military intelligence.

 

[OldGeezer]

People have been calling Ospreys death traps for decades. You never hear them reevaluate their positions when months and years go by with no accidents, but then when a crash finally does occur, out they come again. It's ridiculous, really. I used to investigate accidents for the Marines back in the days of the H-46 and while MV-22s certainly have their quirks, they're a lot more survivable than their predecessors.

 

[Shinpachi]

Japanese Osprey in the 18th Century.

A young man, Kokichi Ukita (1757-1847), was interested in flying like a bird. He studied its mechanism by himself and concluded "If I measure the weight and dimensions of a bird's wing and body, I can build wings that correspond to human body. Human could fly with it like a bird"

Applying his skills as a furniture craftsman, he made wings from bamboo frames with paper and cloth to cover and coated it with persimmon tannin to give it strength. After built some prototypes, in the summer of 1785, he jumped off a bridge over the Asahikawa river of Okayama Domain to fly or fall.

This is the point of this story,

"People who were enjoying the evening breeze on the riverbank were so panicked that he was arrested by the authority and had been deported from the domain." This may be why Japanese are nervous about Osprey .....

浮田幸吉 - Wikipedia

ja.wikipedia.org

Japanese Osprey

第29回鳥人幸吉まちづくりフェアー | 瀬戸内 玉野 観光ガイド 「公式」 | 岡山県玉野市の旅行・観光情報をお届け！

玉野市が生んだ偉人“櫻屋幸吉”の生誕の地で開催される、地域密着型のイベントです。八浜町並み保存パネル展示や、マジックショー、鼓隊演奏(八浜認定こども園)、お茶席、幸吉汁の販売などがあります。

tamanokankou.com

 

[Shinpachi]

Mission impossible 2.

On June 22, 2017, by request of a U.S. veteran's family who discovered grandfather's old Japanese wooden name tags which were said to be the personal belongings of a Zero fighter pilot who crash-landed, fought and died on Niihau Island immediately after the Pearl Harbor attack, Executive Director of Pacific Aviation Museum handed them over to the pilot's younger brother who still lives in Imabari City of Ehime Prefecture.

https://www.hawaiinavi.com/special/80003390

Those wooden name tags were usually used in an office to check who was in or out there.
They have nothing to do with a Zero fighter at least.

Name tags

あなたの道場♪「あこう堂」日記:名札掛け製作いたします（道場用その他）

 

[Wurger]

 

[Capt. Vick]

Cool

 

[Greg Boeser]

Yes but with the Max it was clear there was a safety of flight issue. With the Osprey it is not clear.

US military grounds entire fleet of Osprey aircraft

The announcement comes one week after eight Air Force Special Operations Command service members died in an Osprey crash off the coast of Japan.

www.militarytimes.com

Well.

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

US military grounds entire fleet of Osprey aircraft

The announcement comes one week after eight Air Force Special Operations Command service members died in an Osprey crash off the coast of Japan.

www.militarytimes.com

Well.

Well then…

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Seriously though, if they have reason/suspicions to ground them, then absolutely by all means. I'm just not an advocate for grounding something simply because an aircraft crashes.

 

[MiTasol]

materiel failure suggests they have a potential culprit for this one at least and a buyback of other accidents may show a common link.

Then maybe they can fix the fleet

It is too easy to say crew failure and with the number of accidents crew failure just does not seem reasonable to me. Admittedly I have not researched crew qualifications on the accident aircraft but I very much doubt they were all low time crews. It is far more likely that at least one crew member was high time on most of these non combat accidents.

 

[Snautzer01]

To me the odds of crew failure
1 accident yup can
2 accidents humm yes okee strange things happen.
3 accidents ground the plane and find out what is wrong with the thing

 

[Shinpachi]

Americans taught Japanese the safety control basics half a century ago

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

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materiel failure suggests they have a potential culprit for this one at least and a buyback of other accidents may show a common link.

Then maybe they can fix the fleet

It is too easy to say crew failure and with the number of accidents crew failure just does not seem reasonable to me. Admittedly I have not researched crew qualifications on the accident aircraft but I very much doubt they were all low time crews. It is far more likely that at least one crew member was high time on most of these non combat accidents.

And that is a good reason to ground the fleet. And why prelim investigations are performed.

 

[Shinpachi]

USS Howard in Yokosuka

Fire aboard the USS Howard, sending 12 crew members to Yokosuka Naval Hospital.
On December 1, 2023, a fire broke out on the missile destroyer USS Howard, which is stationed at the U.S. Navy's Yokosuka Base in Yokosuka City, Kanagawa Prefecture. According to the interview with the U.S. Navy on the 9th, 12 crew members were sent to Yokosuka Naval Hospital.

米ミサイル駆逐艦「ハワード」で火災、乗組員１２人を横須賀海軍病院に搬送

【読売新聞】　神奈川県横須賀市の米海軍横須賀基地に配備されているミサイル駆逐艦「ハワード」で１日に火災が発生し、乗組員１２人が基地内の横須賀海軍病院に搬送されていたことが、米海軍への取材でわかった。 米海軍第１５駆逐隊によると、同艦

www.yomiuri.co.jp

This ship reported another incident a few months ago.

USS Howard Suffered 'Soft Grounding' Near Bali Ahead of CO Removal on August 10, 2023.
Howard's commander, Cmdr. Kenji Igawa was removed from command by 7th Fleet commander Vice Adm. Karl Thomas, "due to loss of confidence in his ability to command,"

USS Howard Suffered 'Soft Grounding' Near Bali Ahead of CO Removal - USNI News

A Japan-based guided-missile destroyer made a “soft-grounding,” near the Indonesian island of Bali ahead of a port visit on Aug. 10, USNI News has learned. USS Howard (DDG-83) was heading to the island for a port visit when the destroyer grounded, Navy spokesperson Cmdr. Megan Greene said in a...

news.usni.org

 

[Capt. Vick]

Here's to a swift recovery

 

[Shinpachi]

China Airlines heading from Taiwan to Takamatsu Airport lands at Kansai Airport with cracked windshield.
On December 11, according to Kansai Airport, China Airlines Flight 7760 which was headed from Kaohsiung, Taiwan to Takamatsu Airport was diverted to Kansai Airport to land at around 11 a.m. due to a mechanical problem. Airport says that there was a crack in the windshield of the aircraft.

【速報】台湾から高松空港に向かっていた中華航空機が関西空港に着陸　ウインドシールドにヒビ (読売テレビ) - Yahoo!ニュース

読売テレビニュース - Yahoo!ニュース(読売テレビ)

news.yahoo.co.jp

 

[Wurger]

 

[Capt. Vick]

737?

 

[GrauGeist]

737?

Yep - 737-8AL