Kyushu J7W1 Shinden canard prototype

[F4F Wildcat]

I've seen that one b4, comiso. I was researching the plane and came across the video in this forum. Interesting nontheless!

 

[Aggie08]

I'd forgotten about this thread. Thanks to Hartmann for crediting that beautiful painting to Koike Shigeo. It really is an awesome image.

I wonder if it would have been more susceptible to battle damage as the engine would likely be the first part of the plane hit in air to air combat.

 

[F4F Wildcat]

Oh, yeah... Hadn't thought about that. I still love that machine.
I hope I can get to the Smithsonian to see it for myself.
Well, thanks Hartmann for finding that painting. It's beautiful.

 

[comiso90]

I wonder if the American changing B29 tactics from High altitude bombing to low altitude affect Japanese aircraft development. I can see the Shinden being useful if it has to climb to high altitude but I think it would get chewed up by escorts at lowers altitudes .

 

[Wayne Little]

Check out this link...

CONTENTS (English)

 

[F4F Wildcat]

I've been researching this plane a lot, so I've seen that one b4.

 

[Lucke.stz]

What about the colors of these plane ?

I try on Japanese Green, Japanese Gray (Tamiya Paints...)

Thats it ??

Thanks for sharing ! Nice pics and links !

Lucas

 

[Capt. Vick]

Funny you should ask Lucas,

I was curious as to the finish on the LG doors and bays and wrote to the Smithsonian to ask about it. What I got back was a partial copy of the restoration guidlines (dated 25 October 1983!) authored by none other then Mr Robert C. Mikesh, Senior Curator. Interesting stuff.

Here are his paint suggestions;

External, upper: Black Green (N.1) Munsell 10 GY 2/2
External, lower surfaces, wheel wells and covers: Light Gray (N.10) Munsell 7.5/
Propeller and spinner: Brown (N.12) Munsell 10 R 2/3
Wing leading edge and propeller tip markings: Yellow (N.14) Munsell 10 YR 7/14
Insignia and warning: Red (N.20) Munsell 5 R 4/12
Cockpit: Interior Green (N.5) 10 Y 4/4
Landing Gear: Flat Black

Enjoy!

Regards, Jim

 

[Lucke.stz]

Funny you should ask Lucas,

I was curious as to the finish on the LG doors and bays and wrote to the Smithsonian to ask about it. What I got back was a partial copy of the restoration guidlines (dated 25 October 1983!) authored by none other then Mr Robert C. Mikesh, Senior Curator. Interesting stuff.

Here are his paint suggestions;

External, upper: Black Green (N.1) Munsell 10 GY 2/2
External, lower surfaces, wheel wells and covers: Light Gray (N.10) Munsell 7.5/
Propeller and spinner: Brown (N.12) Munsell 10 R 2/3
Wing leading edge and propeller tip markings: Yellow (N.14) Munsell 10 YR 7/14
Insignia and warning: Red (N.20) Munsell 5 R 4/12
Cockpit: Interior Green (N.5) 10 Y 4/4
Landing Gear: Flat Black

Enjoy!

Regards, Jim

Nice Informations Jim !

I like to build a plastic model of this beauty, the hasegawa has a good kit on 1/72..

Great information, I could swear that the interior colors was Aotake...

Thanks for sharing !

Best regards,

Lucas

 

[Shinpachi]

You all love Shinden so much!

Kyusyu Aircrafts today.
????????

Watanabe Iron Works(ex-Kyusyu Aircrafts) offered their old factory place to display an artwork 'Shinden' made by local art students
http://www.watanabe1886.com/pdf/20071017-160333.pdf

 

[f111_mac]

Hi there,

I think I saw on the history channel a jet engine version of this aircraft, was that a paper plane or did it get any further? If so where can I get some info on it?

Thanks

F111_mac

 

[machine shop tom]

" Canard is a French term. The original meaning is obscure..."

canard means 'duck' in French, probably used because this type of configuration reminds a duck flying with the long neck forward and main mass and wings rearward

Some canards are so small you canardly see them......


tom

 

[xylstra]

Nice pics! I never realised how big that thing was.

...and thirsty, too.

 

[xylstra]

I Love the Shinden! I don't care how many problems it had. It's just the design I love. I play a video game where you can buy a shinden to fly. It's for the NDS it's called Freedom Wings. Everyone says it stinks, but I like it just the same. Thanks for posting that painting, Aggie 08. I'm keeping that one. It's the picture in my desktop now.

Always been my MOSTEST favourite- sexy, stunningly gorgeous - and puts other nation's canard efforts utterly to shame! The only aesthetic enhancement it badly required was elimination of the rear combing and a long slender full, bubble canopy (real combat experience probably would have forced this change just as it did for the 'blind-spot' glazing of the DO-335 pfeil prototype, although their enhancement was mere lateral transparent blisters). Early development problems neither here nor there - all, easily solved. In fact, for a first-time outing for such a radical design it is quite extraordinary just how few problems there were.
In terms of impact, it sits in the same league as the WW1 French (1917) de Bruyere C1. GOOGLE that one!!