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fubar57
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A true troll
I actually think he believes what he posts!
So this is what it's all about.
I could be wrong. But really, this is what makes sense given the facts. Would you try and invade Britain by sea without a navy? How would you ship the tanks over? Looking at the size of the armies in dday landings and what it took to get that force across , surely the Germans didn't have it. So, it doesn't make sense that they really intended something like that. It would have been really stupid to do such a thing whereas to bluff about it would be so logical.
Not what I was tring to point out. We have had before people that were trying to explain the reasoning for German ww2 actions with actions of other beigerents, and to paint the battles lost as actual German plan, rather to what it was.
I' ve seen post war interviews of German pilots who said they were completely unaware of the term 'battle of britain' or that it ended or anything like that. They said never stopped bombing britain. To be honest with you. They are more believable. It makes more sense to me. They really didn't stop bombing Britain. They just switched to night raids iver cities because the British started it and that is a fact. So, how can I believe something that doesn't make sense and it can only serve as a moral boost fairy tale.
It all depends on destroying the RAF. if the RAF was destroyed what losses would the RN have taken without air cover. In fact in numerical terms the RAF single engine fighter force had been destroyed, they started with 500 and lost almost a thousand but still had 700 which caused much confusion on the German side.
fubar57
General
Almost a given that the average German was unaware of the term Battle of Britain
The Battle of Britain: Notes on the Origin of the Name - Ged Martin
The Battle of Britain: Notes on the Origin of the Name - Ged Martin
German pilots probably didn't take note of Winston Churchills speeches (my bold).
What General Weygand called the Battle of France is over. I expect that the Battle of Britain is about to begin. Upon this battle depends the survival of Christian civilisation. Upon it depends our own British life, and the long continuity of our institutions and our Empire. The whole fury and might of the enemy must very soon be turned on us. Hitler knows the he will have to break us in this island or lose the war. If we can stand up to him, all Europe may be free and the life of the world may move forward into broad, sunlit uplands. But if we fail, then the whole world, including the United States, including all that we have known and cared for, will sink into the abyss of a new Dark Age made more sinister, and perhaps more protracted, by the lights of perverted science. Let us therefore brace ourselves to our duties, and so bear ourselves that if the British Empire and its Commonwealth last for a thousand years, men will still say, this was their finest hour."
(Speech to the House of Commons, 18 June, 1940)
Well that is
That was what Churchill said. Hitler said something else. Everyone tells their people what they want.
Kevin J
Banned
Politics, derived from the Greek words poly and tics, so politicians are basically blood sucking parasites.
Well that is what Churchil said.
The problem is that I see so much effort to present the Germans making 'mistakes' for losing to ridiculously overwhelming forces throughout the war when in fact we should be looking at the mistakes of the others who took so many casualties and delays against tiny forces. Mate, 1 million men with 25,000 vehicles and 15,000 aircraft managed to take a seaside town of Caen 10 km away from the beach on 16 July from a baby division only after carpet bombing the hell out it at night with 15,000 French citizen casualties and you call that what a triumph? A German mistake or plan? The plan was to take Caen on 6 of June. Anyway. Sorry, I can't buy that.
This is dead heat race between off-topic stuff and putting words in my mouth.
I will refrain discussing things with you from now on.
That is what it was known as before the battle started because Churchill named it as such. It would be unlikely for Germans to use it, even today Germans see the whole island as "England" and "battle" isn't German. I believe the Germans referred to it as the Kanal Kampf. It isnt unusual for a battle to have different names on different sides, in fact it is quite common.
At the start of the battle of Britain it was the German forces that were numerically superior in single and twin engine fighters.
Politics, derived from the Greek word polite meaning citizen (civilised/polite) itself coming from the word Polis (Police) meaning City ( e.g.. Constantinou-Polis.
Politics is the government processes involving the polites (citizens) .The problem with politics as many philosopher put it at the time was and is demagoguery.
Thank you Kevin.
We have to filter out anything said by anyone in power cause they all suck at the end of the day and we pay the price and have to fight their wars in most cases. People die in the battlefield for visions of freedom or power of those who profit.
GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
The etymology of the word "politics" is Greek...that much is true.
The rest about police, being polite and what-not is interesting, but not even close.
The rest about police, being polite and what-not is interesting, but not even close.
No hard feelings my friend. I didn't put words in your mouth. What I said was my words and yes I got off topic to prove a point. Didn't mean to hurt your feelings honestly. But you sounded like trying to profile me as something I am not or that I am trying to achieve something here. No. I just try to see things as they are and not as they are being served.
An imperialist monarchist power ruling over most of the planet militarily was talking about democracy and fearing a supposed lunatic who supposedly wanted to rule the world instead...it sounds like a joke. The coloured had no rights in the U.S yet the Germans were only racist. It really doesn't add up, do you see where I am coming from? Propaganda both ways. I can't get emotional about it as I am not either German or British. My impartiality may sound as hostile I understand that but my intentions are purely truthseeking. I find WWII very fascinating from a historical point of view.
Are you a linguist? Ask a linguist before you loose a bet.
The word is lose not loose.
