Me-110 Underrated

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The allies made 600,000 aircraft and lost almost half

Where is that statistic from?
I had a look around and found this...

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They never really tried.

By the time the P-51 had arrived in large numbers in the ETO the tactics had changed and the goal of the P-51s wasn't to defend the bombers, but to destroy the Luftwaffe.

Which they did.

To destroy the LW or what was left of it on the ground cause they couldn't in the air so that they can protect their bombers.

 
They never really tried.

By the time the P-51 had arrived in large numbers in the ETO the tactics had changed and the goal of the P-51s wasn't to defend the bombers, but to destroy the Luftwaffe.

Which they did.
They never really tried.

By the time the P-51 had arrived in large numbers in the ETO the tactics had changed and the goal of the P-51s wasn't to defend the bombers, but to destroy the Luftwaffe.

Which they did.

 
They never really tried.

By the time the P-51 had arrived in large numbers in the ETO the tactics had changed and the goal of the P-51s wasn't to defend the bombers, but to destroy the Luftwaffe.

Which they did.
Quoting Wiki will not earn you any points

I earn more points than you who quote nothing and offer nothing as evidence but small talk. At least in wiki there is a bibliography for back up.
 
No, I don't question statistics and they are not my own. 1079 spitfires and hurricanes were lost and 1/3 were shot down by 110s. The rest 2/3s by 109s. How do I question stats. It's simple math.

The RAF had more planes and were also producing at higher rates. What does any of that have to do anything with what Dowding said? You are trying to connect irrelevant things.

There are probably close to a dozen different figures in books and on the internet for Fighter Command losses in the BoB. What makes you think that your number of 1079 is the correct one?
Even it is, then not all losses would be to Me 110's and 109's, but also to bomber gunners and other operational losses.
At the same time, it is extremely difficult to decide who or what exactly shot down which enemy aircraft in combats involving large numbers of aircraft.

How many Hurricanes and Spitfires Me 110's have shot down in the BoB is really probably a qualified guess rather than an absolute fact.
 
There are probably close to a dozen different figures in books and on the internet for Fighter Command losses in the BoB. What makes you think that your number of 1079 is the correct one?
Even it is, then not all losses would be to Me 110's and 109's, but also to bomber gunners and other operational losses.
At the same time, it is extremely difficult to decide who or what exactly shot down which enemy aircraft in combats involving large numbers of aircraft.

How many Hurricanes and Spitfires Me 110's have shot down in the BoB is really probably a qualified guess rather than an absolute fact.

If you do the math you'll find it. Do the math.
 
Bob....The Germans never stopped bombing.
It was halted when they LW effectively ran out of operational bombers. The massed raids on London were actually all they had left and all they could do. So many Squadrons had been reduced to just a few aircraft. Goerings LW had been reduced to about 200 serviceable bombers in the region and he couldnt afford to lose any more.
 
It was halted when they LW effectively ran out of operational bombers. The massed raids on London were actually all they had left and all they could do. So many Squadrons had been reduced to just a few aircraft. Goerings LW had been reduced to about 200 serviceable bombers in the region and he couldnt afford to lose any more.
So no more bombings. It all ended there. The Germans didn't just switch to night bombings. They said oh well..let's stop now :)
 
So no more bombings. It all ended there. The Germans didn't just switch to night bombings. They said oh well..let's stop now :)
Yes, they switched to night bombings which allows you to reduce losses but not hit anything other than cities. The night bombing was never a prelude to invasion or even a serious attempt to force surrender.
 
Yes, they switched to night bombings which allows you to reduce losses but not hit anything other than cities. The night bombing was never a prelude to invasion or even a serious attempt to force surrender.

So why did the British started it.
 
The LW had 230 by 110 then. It lost 196. These bf 110 shot down 340 spitfires and hurricanes when the RAF had thousands of both. I cannot see how you guys can come to such conclusions
There was an incident in 1941 off the Dutch coast where a squadron of Spitfires carrying long range tanks was annihilated by Me 110s, so yes it could be quite effective, and their tail gunners caused problems for Hurricanes.
 
Yes, they switched to night bombings which allows you to reduce losses but not hit anything other than cities. The night bombing was never a prelude to invasion or even a serious attempt to force surrender.

There was never going to be an invasion that is ridiculous. It was a trick. Britain had the biggest navy in the world, the gia neo is not a river. The Germans didn't have the equipment to realize something like that. They only made a naval blockade with submarines and bombings to keep the British away from operarions in Norway the Mediterranean and North Africa.

The British started the night raids in the cities and Germany followed. There was no Bob or ending of bombings. That's war propaganda.
 

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