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Not only would this website not exist but no-one would unless they had blonde hair, blue eyes and spoke bloody German! (Unless of course they were short, fat, had greasy black hair and a tiny square moustache!)
Me-262
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cheddar cheese
Major General
thats a bit of a strong sterotype mate 
bronzewhaler82
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- Feb 19, 2004
No it isn't - thats exactly what the Germans wanted, thats exactly why hitler wanted war mate - to created the ultimate, perfect human race. thats just basic history 
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the me-262 could have won the war for germany if it was operational
during the early years of the war it is the pioneer of modern jets
during the early years of the war
it is the pioneer of modern jets 
the lancaster kicks ass
Major General
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- Dec 20, 2003
actually the E. 28/9 was the worlds first jet plane (don't quote me on that plane name, i can't be sure, it's something like that)
bronzewhaler82
Senior Airman
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- Feb 19, 2004
"the me-262 could have won the war for germany if it was operational
during the early years of the war it is the pioneer of modern jets "
How can anyone even THINK that one plane could change the way the war ended? come on! the Me 262 wasn't indestructable! it could be shot down and the allies had their own jets on the way, it wasn't like the Germans developed the only jet fighters for god sake! the Brits had the Meteor and the Yanks had the Aircomet....the argument just doesn't make sense! One plane type could defeat all the armies, navies and airforces of the Allies?](/forum/images/smilies/eusa_wall.gif "Brick wall ](*,)")
during the early years of the war it is the pioneer of modern jets "
How can anyone even THINK that one plane could change the way the war ended? come on! the Me 262 wasn't indestructable! it could be shot down and the allies had their own jets on the way, it wasn't like the Germans developed the only jet fighters for god sake! the Brits had the Meteor and the Yanks had the Aircomet....the argument just doesn't make sense! One plane type could defeat all the armies, navies and airforces of the Allies?
the lancaster kicks ass
Major General
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well, the meteor wasn't anywhere nere as good as the 262
kiwimac
Staff Sergeant
The aircomet was a joke!
Seriously, had the Germans built aircraft like the FW 189 and the Arado 240 and the Heinkel 280 in the early 1940's the latter half of the war would have been a very different kettle of fish in my opinion.
Kiwimac
Seriously, had the Germans built aircraft like the FW 189 and the Arado 240 and the Heinkel 280 in the early 1940's the latter half of the war would have been a very different kettle of fish in my opinion.
Kiwimac
Hot Space
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kiwimac said:
The Fw 189 was a Twin Engined Recon Plane, M8 8)
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kiwimac
Staff Sergeant
Actually the HE 280 was the German pioneering Jet fighter.
Kiwimac
Kiwimac
kiwimac
Staff Sergeant
FW 187 then, Honestly, you make ONE mistake .....
Kiwimac
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bronzewhaler82
Senior Airman
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- Feb 19, 2004
None of this changes the fact that the Me 262 jet fighter would never have won the war - even if they had built it in 1943
kiwimac
Staff Sergeant
Whaler,
I agree but the HE 280 flew in 1941 while planes like the Arado 240 and the FW 187 Falke were available in 1939. Those together would have made some difference.
Kiwimac
I agree but the HE 280 flew in 1941 while planes like the Arado 240 and the FW 187 Falke were available in 1939. Those together would have made some difference.
Kiwimac
bronzewhaler82
Senior Airman
- 661
- Feb 19, 2004
Oh god this is killing me!
No-one is denying that these jets would have made a difference - all i'm saying is it would never have WON THE WAR for anyone
No-one is denying that these jets would have made a difference - all i'm saying is it would never have WON THE WAR for anyone
kiwimac
Staff Sergeant
And I'm NOT disagreeing with you. What I AM saying is that had the Reich Air ministry actually used its brains for something other that cushioning their seats with, then the outcome of the war could well have been somewhat different.
Kiwimac
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kiwimac said:
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The AR 240 was a Twin Engined propellar plane. Good yes, but no more revolution than for ex. the Mosquito.What influence on the result of the war can a plane like this have !!!!!
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Crazy
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circumstance.... it's all about circumstances...
if the 262 had been in service earlier, it might have thrown the balance of major battles in favor of the axis, which would have made things easier on all the other groups..... you see what I'm getting at? but I don't think it would have made that much of a difference
if the 262 had been in service earlier, it might have thrown the balance of major battles in favor of the axis, which would have made things easier on all the other groups..... you see what I'm getting at? but I don't think it would have made that much of a difference
kiwimac
Staff Sergeant
I guess my argument is that earlier use of planes like the HE 280 et alia would mean that the Reich armed forces would perhaps have had a different attitude towards innovation.
Which perhaps means that a whole raft of other ideas (that were never thought of in our war) could have come up.
Kiwimac
Which perhaps means that a whole raft of other ideas (that were never thought of in our war) could have come up.
Kiwimac
the lancaster kicks ass
Major General
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- Dec 20, 2003
the germans had hundreds of experimental planes, few of them ever worked though
