Michael Wittman, Germany's Best Tank Commander....

[the lancaster kicks ass]

a list has been posted of the top commanders...............

 

[plan_D]

Here's A nice picture of the famous Tiger...

 

[plan_D]

And what the hell, here's another of the mighty Tiger rolling past a knocked out T-34 (You can tell it's a T-34 by the 'Mickey Mouse' ears, the crew has obviously bailed)

 

[Soren]

That is not a T-34

It is clearly a Russian BT 7 recce viechle !

 

[plan_D]

No it's not. It's turret is too big, and too rounded. It's a T-34 Model 1942 or beyond.

 

[plan_D]

Look at the 'Mickey Mouse Ears' in this picture of a T-34. It is quite clearly a T-34. And the BT-7 was not a Recce Vehicle, it was a Fast Tank.

The BT series tanks did not have the same turret hatches, it's hatches were much smaller. And the BT-7 was the only one with two, still the turret is too big to be a BT tank. The T-34 turret covered the top, side to side...the BT turret, on any variant, did not.

 

[Soren]

As a matter of fact I 'know' that its a BT 7 So there's no need for laughing.

You should be able to see that from looking at its scale compared to the Tiger And also when looking at the welded-toghether top hatches !

There's no doubt that its a BT 7

 

[plan_D]

No, you don't know. The Tiger dwarfed the T-34, and the turret on the BT-7 never covered the entire upper hull. Like that in the picture.

 

[Soren]

Haha !!

I see you need a little more inpiration !

Look closely at your picture, look at the rear end of the 'Object' besides the Tiger. Then look at this picture:

 

[plan_D]

It still looks more like a T-34 rear-end. Plus, the BT-7 seems to have three folds on it's rear end. The one in the picture has two.

 

[Soren]

It still looks more like a T-34 rear-end.

Come on !! you can't be serius !!

Plus, the BT-7 seems to have three folds on it's rear end. The one in the picture has two.

The BT 7 has two 'folds', the third you think you can see is the exhaust pipe

 

[Soren]

Also where are the back exhausts on the 'Object' wich should be on a T-34's rear end then ?

 

[plan_D]

You'd have a job on, since the exhaust wasn't underneath the BT-7.

 

[Soren]

You'd have a job on, since the exhaust wasn't underneath the BT-7.

Oh it was the underneath you were talking about ! Well the underneath can't be seen on your pic !! Its too dark !

Also wheres the mufflers that should be there, 'IF' it was a T-34

The top muffler that the BT 7 has is present !

 

[plan_D]

The tank is quite obviously damaged, so anything could be missing. You can't effectively see the top, and perfect rear of the tank. You can see that there isn't a third plate underneath.

 

[Soren]

Plan_D look at this:

And now you tell me again that what you see on the pic is a T-34 ,)

If you can't see its BT 7 now then i dont know why ?

Does this look anything like the rear end on your pic ??

 

[Soren]

I don't see any sloped sides on the 'Objects' upper-side-armor, wich the all T-34 variants have

I only see the BT 7's vertical side armor

Also on your pic of the T-34, if you look closely at the urret there's only one whole hatch and one half hatch...

 

[the lancaster kicks ass]

This is really fascinating stuff, and I ain't jokin'!!

 

[KraziKanuK]

BT-7

T-34/76

Note the oblong hatches of the BT-7 compared to the oval hatches on the T-34 in the drawings and in the photo.

 

[Soren]

Looks like you pics didnt work out quite so good ! probably copyrighted.

But yes your right, that is just yet another fact that says it is a BT 7 on the picture, 'NOT' a T-34