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Huge undersea wall dating from 5000 BC found in France
The 120 metre wall was either a fish-trap or a dyke for protection against rising sea-levels, archeologists believe.
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Compare photos of USS Arizona taken in 1942, after it had settled and was salvaged to ones taken recently.
High tide sees the water level even with #2 turret guide ring in photos from 1942 and 2022.
I was told once, however, that Pearl Harbor is not a legitimate example, as sea levels are different in bays and don't reflect sea level in oceans.
High tide sees the water level even with #2 turret guide ring in photos from 1942 and 2022.
I was told once, however, that Pearl Harbor is not a legitimate example, as sea levels are different in bays and don't reflect sea level in oceans.
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MiTasol
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MiTasol
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This indeed. Internet thinking they know more than people studying the subject as a profession.
If you live in The Netherlands (or Jamaica for that matter) you won't laugh this away.
...or parts of Italy, Canada, the United States and so on. Conspiracy theory only works if you don't go outside or have the power of independent thought. Or read a newspaper or watch the news. Or see your neighbour flooded out twice in five years in two "once in a hundred years" events. People are dying through climate change and the idiots think it's a f***ing joke.
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MiTasol
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Many climate scientists say rising sea levels are the result of melting ice and that lowering sea levels do not exist.
Earth scientists say changes in sea levels are the result of tectonic plate movement and can demonstrate many examples of the sea levels both rising and settling. The Indonesian earthquake of 2004, Japanese earthquake in 2011 and the Anchorage earthquakes in 1964 and 2011 all provide graphic proof that the sea level rises in some places and drops in others. IIRC one area in Japan had a 9 metre (30ft) change between touching sections of the same road. Somehow some people deny the reality of tectonic plate movement and believe that the dropped section is the result of global warming and the risen section could never have happened.
Today's Japanese earthquakes, and those that have preceded them over the last days, may not result in any topographical changes on land but almost certainly did in the region they happened.
Of possible interest to those who live outside earthquake zones Anchorage has had 1,252 earthquakes in the past 365 days. A percentage of these have resulted in the permanent distortion of the earths surface - both up and down.
I could not find the equivalent data on any single city in Japan but the whole country has had 670 earthquakes in the last 365 days
Earth scientists say changes in sea levels are the result of tectonic plate movement and can demonstrate many examples of the sea levels both rising and settling. The Indonesian earthquake of 2004, Japanese earthquake in 2011 and the Anchorage earthquakes in 1964 and 2011 all provide graphic proof that the sea level rises in some places and drops in others. IIRC one area in Japan had a 9 metre (30ft) change between touching sections of the same road. Somehow some people deny the reality of tectonic plate movement and believe that the dropped section is the result of global warming and the risen section could never have happened.
Today's Japanese earthquakes, and those that have preceded them over the last days, may not result in any topographical changes on land but almost certainly did in the region they happened.
Of possible interest to those who live outside earthquake zones Anchorage has had 1,252 earthquakes in the past 365 days. A percentage of these have resulted in the permanent distortion of the earths surface - both up and down.
I could not find the equivalent data on any single city in Japan but the whole country has had 670 earthquakes in the last 365 days
The melting of the ice is undeniable. Where do you think that water went?
Thumpalumpacus
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It'd be nice if we could do that, but it doesn't take many of them to throw a spanner in the works -- if they're in the right (or actually wrong) positions of power.
Or Tuvalu, Kiribati, or Marshall Islands.
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Got it covered. I'm moving to the Khorat Plateau. When the Caps melt, beachfront property!
And many other places indeed.
More to this see the following as just one report from NASA:
Note that I had to dig this up using Wayback Machine since the current US regime has actively scrubbed any evidence of this (no conspiracy theory, it's policy) from their websites and thus if you try to go there directly you get a blank page.
And btw, while 6 inches/15cm might not sound like a lot, it can be devastating especially if you add in tidal effects, storms etc etc.
Thumpalumpacus
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My opinion: climate deniers are whistling past the graveyard. The convergent evidence supporting AGW is virtually irrefutable. Ignoring it at this point is consigning us to long-term and biome-wide changes that will not give two shits rubbed together about anyone's ideology.
I would also argue that even if you don't want to believe the science or care about the environmental aspects ("God damned tree huggers!!"), then just doing things such as having more efficient vehicles/power sources etc etc, makes good economic sense and also good national security sense. Thus don't do the right thing for the environment, do it for your wallet and safety.
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I agree with you that many of the things make good sense. I just side with the Earth scientists.
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Those of you with Pacific Jepp charts should check out the international airfield elevations of those three for the last 10-15 years. Last I looked several years back, the sea level on one of those airports had risen in a negative direction without any airfield modification. Same with several airfields around the south end of Bougainville where airports on the other side of the fault line have sunk.
Regarding
Those of you with Pacific Jepp charts should check out the international airfield elevations of those three for the last 10-15 years. Last I looked several years back, the sea level on one of those airports had risen in a negative direction without any airfield modification. Same with several airfields around the south end of Bougainville where airports on the other side of the fault line have sunk.
That's all fine, but here the soil is silting because rising of sea water levels. It's been accelerating lately as well. And there is not much tectonic plate movement here.
Puts a strain on food production etc.
Many people don't deny global warming; they just have a problem with the idea that it is man-made. But they are lumped together with those who deny it is happening. If in fact it is not man-caused it may be cyclical. If so, we are not doomed. If it is the result of man's doing, it probably will contimue, as large portions of humanity are not inclinrd to change their habits, no matter what the "experts" say.
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