Mosquito vs single engine planes.

[herman1rg]

We, the other members, also provide information

All members provide information, some have it in different areas to others LOL

 

[pinehilljoe]

I reckon that Mosquitoes claimed just over 30 Fw 190s and a mere 5 Bf 109s throughout the war. Most of these were at night, some are unclear (you can't assume that a single date, as in 13.6.43, rather than a double, as in 13/14.6.43, definitely means a daytime claim) and at least two were definitely by day. Obviously the combat reports, as above, can clarify this.
These numbers should be put into the context of the hundreds of claims made.
The Mosquito, for reasons mentioned, was hardly deliberately targeting S/E fighters, but if it found them at night, in defence of Britain or as an intruder, it could and did occasionally shoot them down.
Cheers
Steve

Were the German aircraft part of Major Hajo Hermann's Wilde Sau? It must have take a lot of cool nerve to fly a 109 or 190 at night.

 

[Airframes]

Martin Bowman's "Mosquitopanik" includes 59 pages covering air to air victories by Mosquitoes, from 1942 to 1945 in the ETO, (MTO, Malta, Far East etc are not covered).
These show the date, type of Mossie (eg XIX), type and number of enemy aircraft confirmed destroyed, some with unit and crew, place, and the Mossie crew.
As Steve has pointed out, some of the dates span an overnight period, for example 23/24/4/44 (Day/Day/Month/Year), which are obviously night 'kills'.
However, some of those with just a single day shown, could also be night 'kills', depending on time of year, if the Mossie took off and landed before midnight, and this can possibly be deduced from the type of Mosquito involved - if it's a night fighter type, then it's more than likely the 'kill' was at night.
Unfortunately, when it comes to the Mosquito MkII, the list does not differentiate between Mk.F.II and NF.II.
There are a number of kills shown for the Mosquito VI, which is the FB.VI, but unless the time is shown it's not possible to be certain, from the lists, if this was a day or night victory (FB.VI was also employed on Night Intruder Ops), without cross-referencing from other sources, or Sqn ORBs.

 

[Mike Williams]

Here are a couple of Mosquito versus Me 109 combat reports that might be of interest:
F/Lt. D. J. Raby, 239 Squadron, 8/9 August, 1944
F/Lt. H. E. Miller, 418 Squadron, 30 September, 1944
W/C B. R. O'B Hoare, 605 Squadron, 24/25 March 1944

 

[Old Wizard]

 

[stona]

Were the German aircraft part of Major Hajo Hermann's Wilde Sau? It must have take a lot of cool nerve to fly a 109 or 190 at night.

Ten Fw 190s were claimed by No. 85 Squadron (and an 11th by No.256 Squadron) between May and July 1943. That's a significant percentage of the total for the war. Most of these can be matched to losses from SKG 10, which was involved in night time fighter bomber raids, usually against RAF airfields, occasionally London, during this period.

The aircraft of SKG 10 seem to have spent most of their time getting lost, landing on British airfields by mistake, crash landing or being shot down by night fighters. They were probably happy to be moved to Italy immediately after the period in question.

Cheers

Steve

 

[Mike Williams]

Me 109 losses from Mosquitoes as compiled by Mark Huxtable:
17/18 Aug 1943 605 Bf 109 F/L D. H. Bromley
22/23 Sept 1943 605 F/O K. H. Dacre Bf 109 G-6, Uffz. Henner, Karl of 7./JG 300
22/23 Sept 1943 605 S/L T. A. Heath Bf 109 G-6, JG 302, Ofw. Adolf Wiedermann, KIA
28/29 Jan 1944 141 F/O H. E. White Bf 109
23/24 March 1944 605 F/L G. A. Holland Bf 109 G-6 # 411 205, 3./JG 301 Oblt.Wilhelm Burggraf
23/24 March 1944 605 F/L G. A. Holland Bf 109G-6 # 411 232, I./JG 301 Fw Fritz Brinkmannwas wounded
26/27 May 1944 141 F/O H. E. White Bf 109
15/15 July 1944 169 W/O L. W. Turner Bf109 G-6, 3./JG301, Fw. Wilhelm Hähnel injured.
8/9/ Aug 1944 239 F/L D. J. Raby Bf 109, I./JG 301
10/11 Aug 1944 169 F/O W H. Miller Bf 109
27 Aug 1944 25 BF 109 G, likely Fw Martin Schulze of 1/JG301. wounded
3 Sept 1944 418 F/L S. H. Cotterill Bf 109
6/7 Sept 1944 515 W/C F. Lambert Bf 109
11/12 Sept 1944 85 F/L P. H. Kendall Bf 109 G
13 Sept 1944 140 F/L C. T. Butt Bf 109
30 Sept 1944 418 F/L H. E. Miller Possibly Bf 109 of Schulstaffel ?/I./JG 102
29 Oct 1944 515 F/L F. T. L'Amie Bf 109 JG 102, Fw Heinz Vennemann KIA.
26 Dec 1944 143 F/O Smith Bf 109
11 Jan 1945 143 F/O Clause Whilst taking evasive action, the 109 hit the sea.
11 Jan 1945 235 F/L N. Russell Bf 109 G-14 W.N. 462503, of 14./JG 5. Officer Clemens Koehler KIA.
11 Jan 1945 235 F/L N. Russell Bf 109 G-14 Officer Werner Nieft
26 Jan 1945 FIU F/L P. S. Crompton Bf 109
16 Feb 1945 FEF F/O K. V. Panter Bf 109
16 Feb 1945 FEF F/L P. S. Comptom Bf 109
21/22 Feb 1945 239 W/C W. F. Gibb Likely I./N.J.G 11 Uffz. Hans Martin, Bf 109 G-14, Werk-Nr. 780 716, KIA. Claimed as an Fw 190.
12 March 1945 333 Fnr. T. G. Gulsrud Bf 109 G6 of 13./JG 5, Wrk.Nr. 410780. Oblt. Hans Schneider KIA.
24/25 March 1945 604 F/L L. J. Leppard Bf 109
4/5 April 1945 BSDU S/L R. G. Woodman Bf 109
24/25 March 1945 23 F/O Field Bf 109 probable

 

[tomo pauk]

Now where is Mark ('mhuxt' here) when we need him...

 

[eagledad]

Mosquito roll rate from the Australian Archives.

Eagledad

 

[Mike Williams]

Fw 190 kills by Mossies as compiled by Mark Huxtable:

14/15 May 1943 157 F/L H. E. Tappin Possibly FW190A-4 5841 of I./SKG 10, flown by Häusler, Uffz. Erich, killed
16/17 May 1943 85 F/O B. J. Thwaites I/SKG 10 lost two 190s without trace ('A4 5838 and 'A5 840043), and two more crashed in France seriously damaged.
16/17 May 1943 85 S/L W. P. Green I/SKG 10 lost two 190s without trace ('A4 5838 and 'A5 840043), and two more crashed in France seriously damaged.
16/17 May 1943 85 F/L G. Howitt I/SKG 10 lost two 190s without trace ('A4 5838 and 'A5 840043), and two more crashed in France seriously damaged.
16/17 May 1943 85 F/O J. D. R. Shaw I/SKG 10 lost two 190s without trace ('A4 5838 and 'A5 840043 - Yellow 4), and two more crashed in France seriously damaged.
18/19/ May 1943 85 F/O J. P. Lintott Fw 190 A-5 Green 1 of Stab.I/SKG 10, flown by Antwerpen, Oblt. Paul.
21/22 May 1943 85 S/L E. D. Crew Fw 190 A-5/U-8, Wrk.Nr 52624, 3./SKG 10, Uffz. Friederich Kolz, MiA
13/14 June 1943 85 W/C J. Cunningham FW190A-5 840047 of 3./SKG 10, Ullrich, Ltn. Heinz, PoW.
21/22 June 1943 85 F/L W. H. Maguire Fw 190 A-5 2./SKG 10. Klauer, Ltn. Wolfgang
17/18 July 1943 256 Sgt R. A. Smith Fw 190
23/24 Aug 1943 85 W/C J. Cunningham SKG 10. Uffz. Alfred Lembach killed
5/6 Sept 1943 418 S/L R. J. Bennell Likely Fw190 A-6 W.Nr 550600 of 5/JG300, Fw Hermann Beidl killed
6/7 Sept 1943 85 F/L C. G. Houghton 3/SKG 10. May have been GEISLER, Kurt
6/7 Sept 1943 85 S/L G. L. Howitt Fw190A-5 W.NR 51714 3/SKG 10.
8/9 Sept 1943 85 W/C J. Cunningham Breier, Uffz. Helmut
8/9 Sept 1943 85 F/L B. J Thwaites Fw 190 A-5 I/SKG 10 Maxian, Fw. Otto, Burzig, Ltn. Vinzenz and lger, Uffz. Alfred.
8/9 Sept 1943 85 F/L B. J Thwaites Fw 190 A-5 I/SKG 10 Maxian, Fw. Otto, Burzig, Ltn. Vinzenz and lger, Uffz. Alfred.
22/23 Sept 1943 605 F/O A. G. Woods Fw 190 A-4 142347, 6./JG 301, Marten, Fw. Wilhelm, KIA
23/24 Sept 1943 418 F/O J. R. Johnson Fw 190
20/21 Oct 1943 29 Fw 190, I/SKG 10.
21/22 Oct 1943 29 Fw 190
2/3 Nov 1943 85 F/O E. R. Hedgecoe Fw 190
6/7 Nov 1943 85 S/L J. Selway Believed to be, Fw 190 A-5/U8 WKNr. 5823 StG-77, 3/SKG-10 (Rosiers). Fw. Friedrich Pichler
20/21 Nov 1943 29 F/L R. C. Pargeter FW190G-3 160313, I./SKG 10, Jorga, Fw. Kurt PoW
16-Dec-43 333 Fenrik A. H. Wyller Fw 190 A-2 5495, 12./JG5., Uffz. Willi Sürth Killed
2/3 Jan 1944 96 F/L N. S. Head FW 190A-5 52528, 1/SKG10, Lt. G. Stein missing. 2/SKG10 FW 190A-5 51403, Lt. K. Drakhoffer missing.
15/16 Jan 1944 96 S/L A. Parker-Rees Fw 190 A-5, 1./SKG 10 this night. Ofw Rudolf Berghäuser or Fw Georg Sprint of 2/SKG 10.
21/22 Jan 1944 29 F/O C. Musgrave Fw 190
21/22 Jan 1944 29 F/L Jarvis Fw 190 A-5, 1./SKG 10, Ofw Kasper Flosdorfs
29/1 March 1944 96 Fw 190
22/23 March 1944 96 F/L N. S Head Fw 190 G-2 840045, Stab I./SKG 10, Krahner, Ltn. W.
23/24 March 1944 85 S/L B. J. Thwaites Fw 190 G-3 160498, Hpt. Helmut Heisig
24/25 March 1944 141 F/L H. C. Kelsey Fw 190
27/28 March 1944 96 Fw 190
9 April 1944 418 F/O G. N. Miller Fw 190
9 April 1944 418 F/O H. E. Jones May have been an Me 109,
9 April 1944 605 F/L G. Allison Fw 190
23/24 April 1944 141 F/L G. Rice Fw 190
29 April 1944 305 W/C J. R. Braham Fw 190 A-6 530735, 1./JG26, Ofw. Willi Kalitzki Killed
2/3 May 1944 418 S/L R. A. Kipp Fw 190
2/3 May 1944 418 S/L R. A. Kipp Fw 190
2/3 May 1944 418 S/L R. A. Kipp Fw 190
2/3 May 1944 418 S/L R. A. Kipp Fw 190
8/9 May 1944 418 F/O D. E. Roberts Fw 190
12 May 1944 107 W/C J. R. Braham Fw 190
16 May 1944 418 S/L C.C Scherf Fw 190A-8/R2 680163, 12./JG 3, Uffz. Johannes Staassen killed
7 June 1944 248 W/C A. D. Phillips Fw 190
14/15 June 1944 604 F/O T. R. Wood Fw 190
15/16 June 1944 605 F/O E. L. Williams Fw 190
16/17 June 1944 488 S/L E. N. Bunting Fw 190
17/18 June 1944 264 F/L I. V. Cosby Fw 190
17/18 June 1944 264 F/L M. M. Davison Fw 190
17/18 June 1944 488 F/O D. N. Robinson Fw 190
19/20 June 1944 488 P/O C. J. Vlotman Fw 190
23/24 June 1944 264 S/L P. B. Elwell Fw 190
27/28 June 1944 239 W/C P.M.J. Evans Fw 190
7/8 July 1944 239 W/C P.M.J. Evans Fw 190
8/9 Aug 1944 169 F/L R. G. Woodman Fw 190
8/9 Aug 1944 239 F/L D. Welfare Fw 190, I./JG 301
9/10 Aug 1944 219 F/L M. J. Gloster Fw 190
10/11 Aug 1944 219 F/L G. R. Parker Fw 190
10/11 Aug 1944 409 S/L J. A. Hatch Fw 190
11/12 Aug 1044 409 W/O Henke Fw 190
1/2 Sept 1944 410 F/L I. E. Mac Tavish Fw 190
30 Sept 1944 418 F/L D. E. Forsyth May have been a Bf 109 of Schulstaffel ?/I./JG 102, which was reported crashed 6km E Ålborg on this date.
30 Sept 1944 418 S/L R. G. Gray Fw 190
2/3 Oct 1944 219 F/L J. R. Gard'ner FW 190 G-3, 8./KG 51, Oberfähnrich Werner Leipold baled out
14/15 Oct 1944 239 F/O D. R. Howard Fw 190
29 Oct 1944 515 F/L F. T. L'Amie Fw 190
29/30 Oct 1944 410 Lt. A. A. Harrington FW 190 F-8, 933346, 7./KG 51, Ofhr. Brune Walter MIA.
11/12 Nov 1944 85 F/O A. J. Owen Fw 190
15 Jan 1945 143 Lt. F. Alexandre Fw 190 A-8 737410, 9./JG 5, Offizier Waldow Zeuner (KIA) and Fw 190 A-8 350183, 9./JG 5, Offizier Richard Lehnert (KIA
15 Jan 1945 143 F/L G. Morton-Moncrieff Fw 190 A-8 737410, 9./JG 5, Offizier Waldow Zeuner (KIA) and Fw 190 A-8 350183, 9./JG 5, Offizier Richard Lehnert (KIA
15 Jan 1945 248 F/O Peacock Fw 190 A-3 2172, 9./JG 5, Feldwebel Oskar Helbing killed
16 Feb 1945 Fighter Experimental Flight F/L P. S. Compton Fw 190A-8 170935, II./ZG 101, Best, Ogefr. Erwin KIA
24/25 Feb 1945 Fighter Experimental Flight F/O R. E. Lelong Fw 190
24/25 Feb 1945 Fighter Experimental Flight F/O R. E. Lelong Fw 190
7/8 March 1945 23 F/O E. L. Heath Fw 190
22/23 March 1944 W/O Howells Possibly FW190A-8 732075, III./JG 5, Kohrt, Oblt. Fritz MIA
22/23 March 1944 FW190A-8 350184, III./JG 5, Buchler, Fhr. Friedhelm WIA on 25.3.45 / FW190A-8 732217, III./JG 5 / FW190A-8 737935 III./JG 5
22/23 March 1944 FW190A-8 350184, III./JG 5, Buchler, Fhr. Friedhelm WIA on 25.3.45 / FW190A-8 732217, III./JG 5 / FW190A-8 737935 III./JG 5
30/31 March 1944 264 W/C E. S. Smith Fw 190
7/8 April 1945 85 W/C K. Davison Fw 190
13/14 April 1945 600 S/L G. W. Hammond Fw 190
23/34 April 1945 409 F/O E. E. Hermanson Fw 190
24/25 April 1945 264 F/L S. J. Moss Fw 190
25/26 April 1945 264 P/O J. Hutton E/A may have been from NSGr.20

Sorry about the bad formatting.

 

[FLYBOYJ]

Thanks Mike!