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Maestro said:GermansRGeniuses said:hmmmmmm lets consider two things, one is that the B-17 flew at daytime making it prey for faster fighters that can actually SEE their target and not have to rely on (excellent) German radar (that you brits copied), and two, it had 10 crew unlike the 5 of the lanc so half losses could be the same as the lanc but then again, it was a better plane so it didnt have to worry about hiding itslef in the nighttime...
Hmmmmm... I have to point something out: radar was invented by British, not German. 8)
That was one of the many reasons why Britain won the BoB.
(At least, that's what my teacher said in my "History of the 20th century" course in High School.)
ahanswurst said:My father who is 83 and still alive was a waist gunner on a B-17 stationed in England (Upper Ipswitch) with the 390th bomb wing. I asked him of all the gun positions on a b-17 which did he think was the safest. His reply was the waist position. He flew over 25 missions over Germany. I have his squadron book and a list of all of his missions that he flew over Germany. Of his airplane crew there are still 4 of the 10 crew members still alive. They still mail cards back and forth and they have done this since the war was over. So I vote for the waist position as being the safest. He agrees that the lower ball turret gunner was the worst position.
cheddar cheese said:im sorry, i have to corect some things here 8)
ceiling on a lancaster is 24,000 feet
range is 2530 miles on a lanc
speed of a b-17 is also 287
8)
that you brits copiedGerman radar we inented radarGermansRGeniuses said:hmmmmmm lets consider two things, one is that the B-17 flew at daytime making it prey for faster fighters that can actually SEE their target and not have to rely on (excellent) (that you brits copiedGerman radar), and two, it had 10 crew unlike the 5 of the lanc so half losses could be the same as the lanc but then again, it was a better plane so it didnt have to worry about hiding itslef in the nighttime...
bronzewhaler82 said:cheddar cheese said:im sorry, i have to corect some things here 8)
ceiling on a lancaster is 24,000 feet
range is 2530 miles on a lanc
speed of a b-17 is also 287
8)
I checked my source of info and according to another book i've read it states the max height a Lanc could reach was 24,500ft....but even so its still considerably less than the B-17..
The B-17 was still faster at 323mph (i've checked several sources on this)
but you are right that the Lanc had a better range 8) ....still the Lanc doesn't seem as good as the B-17 in general
still the Lanc doesn't seem as good as the B-17 in general
uruguay didnt invent radar, look at your flag! and i meant GERMAN radar made in GERMANY by the GERMANS in GERMANYbrad said:that you brits copiedGerman radar we inented radarGermansRGeniuses said:hmmmmmm lets consider two things, one is that the B-17 flew at daytime making it prey for faster fighters that can actually SEE their target and not have to rely on (excellent) (that you brits copiedGerman radar), and two, it had 10 crew unlike the 5 of the lanc so half losses could be the same as the lanc but then again, it was a better plane so it didnt have to worry about hiding itslef in the nighttime...
How was it better?
brad said:no iam from britten
whe'll