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Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
Then there were the Allied pilots who swore up and down that they encountered and/or shot down Heinkel He113s...
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Even during WW2 the Germans would shout Actung Spifure even if the a/c wasn't a Spitfire. They even claimed they shot down/were shot down by a Spitfire even if they weren't.
Phil the Greek as you call him was the nephew of my fathers commanding officer Louis Mountbatten, he wasn't "really a kraut" he was a member of the European royal families. He is actually the closest living relative to the Romanovs of the Russian Royal family and his DNA was used to verify the corpses of the executed Russian Royals were really what was claimed.We won because we had more 'bloody foreigners' than they did, even Phil the Greek was really a Kraut. Our insidious plan to 'make the World English' had been going on for centuries, the approved methods being the 'boy on girl' one, or 'she stoops to conquer' one.
My family is from Europe too. Another bloody foreigner. My sarcastic wit, I hope, underlies the fact, that the British Empire was inclusive, whereas the Nazi's were exclusive, and so they failed.Phil the Greek as you call him was the nephew of my fathers commanding officer Louis Mountbatten, he wasn't "really a kraut" he was a member of the European royal families. He is actually the closest living relative to the Romanovs of the Russian Royal family and his DNA was used to verify the corpses of the executed Russian Royals were really what was claimed.
The Hellcat reached close to that figure in two years of war and it certainly didn't have the performance of either the Lightning, Thunderbolt or Mustang
The Hellcat (and likewise the Corsair) were designed to operate at much lower altitudes, and as such were very competitive below 20K feet.
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(Wright was NEVER able to deliver a production high altitude R-2600)
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What were the performance numbers on the two-stage R2600?Good post.
However, Wright delivered nine two-stage R-2600-10s and two R-2600-16s in 1941 and 42. That is 3 years before anyone in Germany delivered a workable 2-stage supercharged military engine, a year before Allison managed it, and no worse timing vs. initial batch of 2-stage Merlins delivered.
What were the performance numbers on the two-stage R2600?
Hi Kevin,
While there is definite truth to this statement and I understand the logic behind it, I think that it's important to discuss the tactical situation and environment in which the fighting was taking place. All of the army fighters discussed were engineered to operate at higher altitudes (above 20K feet) so that's were they excelled. The Hellcat (and likewise the Corsair) were designed to operate at much lower altitudes, and as such were very competitive below 20K feet. Not to say that the naval aircraft could beat the army fighters in all performance parameters at lower altitudes, but they at least could come close at various altitudes and even match or exceed them under the right circumstances (each army and navy type having certain strengths and weaknesses). This is saying a lot because due to the added weight and drag of equipment necessary for carrier operations, naval aircraft are inherently at a disadvantage when compared to their land-based counterparts. So for them to be competitive in certain flight regimes is no small engineering feat in itself.
11 two stage R2600s isn't production though, it sounds more like hand built prototypes.
So what was the problem? Turbos of the time couldn't handle the mass flow of a 2000+ cube engine? I notice there didn't seem to be any turbo 2800s around that time either.Wright had also tried to turbocharge the R-2600 in the A-20 (maybe others?) but that worked so well (sarcasm) that only one aircraft out of 63 ordered was completed with the turbo installation.
Hi Pete great to hear from you too! I'm doing as well as can be expected, everyday is a challenge but I'm finding my way. I mostly worry about my children's welfare and how they're dealing with the huge loss. That's the one thing that keeps me going some days. I hope to continue coming back here in the days and weeks to come. Besides, I always enjoy reading your posts so I knew that I couldn't stay away too long.....Is this a Darren sighting! Long time my friend, how are you holding up? I hope all is well.
Pete
The Mustang was definitely NOT designed as a high altitude fighter.
Yeah, I could imagine the B-26 would have been far more formidable if it had a twin-stage supercharged R-2800 engine...We probably could say it that way. On the other hand, these engines were actual, 'flying' hardware. Too bad the 2-stage R-2800 was a better engine (so the Hellcat got it), though, while USAAC/AAF was not interested in it (so it was not installed in their A/C, say B-25s or B-26s, or some fighter).
The turbo R-2600 was plagued with overheating. A variety of scoops, vents and plain old holes (in large numbers) were tried in the cowling to get more cooling air into/out of the cowling.So what was the problem? Turbos of the time couldn't handle the mass flow of a 2000+ cube engine? I notice there didn't seem to be any turbo 2800s around that time either.
Cheers,
Wes