Lucky13
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Sure is...thanks for taking your time with this mate, much appreciated! What's your views on the J-35 Draken/Dragon?
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FLYBOYJ
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My pleasure...
J-35 - 5 minute hot rod. Take off, go fast, make a turn, land. The National Test Pilot School in Mojave Ca. Operated several. I knew a few guys who worked on them.
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Lucky13
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Learn something new everyday here....
Well, was build for defence, so I'm not surprised. How would it compare to the F-8?
Well, was build for defence, so I'm not surprised. How would it compare to the F-8?
FLYBOYJ
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I think over all the F-8 was way better. It had combat legs, lower wing loading as well as being "combat proven." The J-35 was slightly faster and I believe climbed faster.Learn something new everyday here....
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Sorry about that FB...had to leave for my nightshift. So it would be fair to say that the F-8 would come out on top in mock fight then, right?
FLYBOYJ
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Its hard to say - I'd think its performance would be similar to a MiG-21. I think the F-8 might have the advantage in the vertical although it seems the Drakken has a better advertised climb rate. Any delta configuration really looses energy in a turn so the F-8 may have the advantage there as well. The Early Drakkens had 2 cannons, later reduced to one, the F-8 had 4 guns. I do know the F-8 downed 2 MiG-21s over Vietnam and had the best kill/ loss ratio of that conflict. Again I'd go with the F-8 but
Lucky13
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Of the 19 MiG kills in Vietnam 2 were shot down with the guns?
FLYBOYJ
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That sound about right - I know the history Channel had a good piece about the Crusader and the book "And Kill Migs" also gives a good account of the F-8 in Vietnam.
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I have that book, but back in Sweden. Wasn't this the same guy who wrote about the Dauntless, Corsair and was on Dogfights? Or am I thinking about someone else?
FLYBOYJ
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Lou Drendel.
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Nope, that's not him that I'm thinking about.....Ba....Barrett Tillman!
FLYBOYJ
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I see....
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But, I have Lou Drendel's books as well. Many of them And Kill MiGs is one of them. I've been trying to find Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club: U.S. Carrier Operations Off Vietnam by Rene Francillon....
FLYBOYJ
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I've flippped through it - great book!
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Nice to know FB, thanks a bunch! Any recommendations for Intruder and Wild Weasel books? From Vietnam that is....
FLYBOYJ
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No so much on the Intruder but try "Wild Weasel, first in, last out." I never read it but I heard it was pretty good.
pbfoot
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I have a trilogy fictional but very Clancy like the call signs ,routes are I believe are correct .Its about the 105's flying out of Thailand the author is Tom Wilson who has over 3000hrs of fighter time with 4 silver stars and 3 DFC's so I'm going to assume its fairly accurate . The books are Termite Hill, Tango Uniform and Luckys Bridge and each one is about 700 pages. Great reads
Joe you posted this earlier. Great site! There is a cyclic montage of photos on their home page. For a brief period I managed to 'capture' this image...
It LOOKS like a Yak-30 'Magnum'...
..yet I can find no mention of it in their aircraft listings.
Do you know if it's flying in America? It would be an extremely rare aircraft now, and spares would be a problem?
(Or I have completely misidentified it.)
FLYBOYJ
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Joe you posted this earlier. Great site! There is a cyclic montage of photos on their home page. For a brief period I managed to 'capture' this image...
It LOOKS like a Yak-30 'Magnum'...
..yet I can find no mention of it in their aircraft listings.
Do you know if it's flying in America? It would be an extremely rare aircraft now, and spares would be a problem?
(Or I have completely misidentified it.)
I think the top image is an Impala but the one on the bottom is new to me. I haven't been back there in over a year but am planning a trip there the first week of April. I'll try to find out more.
That makes a LOT more sense, and it is listed in their inventory. Thanks.
