SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
Dude, I wasn't serious. I know the US had big problems with Manifest Destiny, North. I'm really glad I didn't mention Quebec.
Operation Pike Goes Ahead?
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SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
54 40 or fight!
Greg Boeser
Chief Master Sergeant
I remember when the Canadians declassified their old war plans for invading the US. Was quite indignant about the possibility of hordes of those pasty white Northerners streaming across the Land of 10,000 Lakes. I bet they're dusting those plans off though right about now. Probably making a secret deal for the partition with Mexico as we speak.
GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
The current president is a Catholic, by the way...
swampyankee
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I know that. I'm also old enough to remember the furor over an earlier Catholic presidential candidate.
SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
It's a good thing we put the kabosh on the Avro Arrow!
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Admiral Beez
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T’was the wrong aircraft for the wrong time. We were making a clone of the F-106 from two years earlier when the strategic threat was moving from Soviet bombers to ICBMs and the RCAF really needed a fighter-strike platform, like the F4 Phantom II (took flight two months after the Arrow). Avro Canada’s head office at Hawker Siddeley UK understood this and thus was working on the multirole P.1121. That’s what Hawker Siddeley’s Canadian division should have been working on.
Greg Boeser
Chief Master Sergeant
Gack! Religion and politics in the same post!!
GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
I know, that slipped under the radar somehow!Gack! Religion and politics in the same post!!
I didn't take chances though, I ran down the hall and hid to avoid collateral damage
ARTESH
Chief Master Sergeant
Interesting one! Thanks for sharing.
Operation Pike - Wikipedia
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March 1940, the RAF and French Airforce bomb the Soviet oil fields.
Congrats mate! You've given the *enter game's name here* Dev team an Idea for next update!
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Admiral Beez
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The RAF flew reconnaissance flights over the Soviet oil fields. That’s a serious step.
Operation Pike - Wikipedia
SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
It would be a good idea to have current information on a possible target. England has had a long history of intelligence gathering. I doubt there were diplomatic postings there. They couldn’t have a diplomat just “drive by“ the oil fields on his way to a social gathering. Many powers seemed to have covert and not quite overt reconnaissance of anything of strategic importance.The RAF flew reconnaissance flights over the Soviet oil fields. That’s a serious step.
Operation Pike - Wikipedia
At that stage of the war (and probably whenever it suited them), Britain was disregarding pesky details like other peoples' neutrality. France and Britain prepared to occupy northern Norway in 1940, ostensibly so they could supply war materials to Finland (who had their troubles with Papa Stalin at the time). They were literally preempted by hours by the German invasion (cruisers in Scapa had French mountain troops on board ready to go).
Politics aside...
It would be interesting to compare the capabilities of Allied bombers vs Soviet PVO (air defence) in spring/summer 1940.
In real life, PVO failed miserably, except in places as Leningrad and Moscow. Luftwaffe continued to destroy the Soviet industry at will as long as the distances allowed (for example, Operation Carmen II). It is reasonable to assume that in 1940 the Soviets were even less prepared.
On the other hand, Allied bomber crews in 1940 were certainly less experienced than German crews later in the war. Forces and bomb load assigned were meagre. Some night bombers would probably miss the target completely.
It would be interesting to compare the capabilities of Allied bombers vs Soviet PVO (air defence) in spring/summer 1940.
In real life, PVO failed miserably, except in places as Leningrad and Moscow. Luftwaffe continued to destroy the Soviet industry at will as long as the distances allowed (for example, Operation Carmen II). It is reasonable to assume that in 1940 the Soviets were even less prepared.
On the other hand, Allied bomber crews in 1940 were certainly less experienced than German crews later in the war. Forces and bomb load assigned were meagre. Some night bombers would probably miss the target completely.
