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Oh they do, believe me, they do.see the thing is the p39 can be regarded as a good plane on paper but its the ugliest thing to lift of the ground and nobody says "my favourite plane is the p39"
see the thing is the p39 can be regarded as a good plane on paper but its the ugliest thing to lift of the ground and nobody says "my favourite plane is the p39"
i was notClearly you weren't paying attention to the P-39 penalties in another thread.
All true of course but the fly boys ( civil and the armed ones) also get trained with sims. And even navy guys get trained on sims entering ports. So it must have some value.A little perspective. This is a good snapshot of what is not replicated in the sim.
Cheers,
Biff
PS: I don't know this guy, but can relate to what he has written. I still remember the first time I shut down and could hear the clank of the fan blade. Just for chronological perspective, the current F-35 Demo Pilot is a Capt Beo Wolf. I flew Eagles in the same wing as her Dad, Lupus.
Sims are good for training procedures, hence why they are good for instrument training.All true of course but the fly boys ( civil and the armed ones) also get trained with sims. And even navy guys get trained on sims entering ports. So it must have some value.
Indeed i have seen a few big ones.Sims are good for training procedures, hence why they are good for instrument training.
All true of course but the fly boys ( civil and the armed ones) also get trained with sims. And even navy guys get trained on sims entering ports. So it must have some value.
I'd be interested in reading about those.There has been a few cases of airplanes being saved by a person who had gaming time when the pilot became incapacitated.
Snautzer01,Thanks Biff
I only have very very limited experience on 1 engined trainers, How ever, i do think that sims and then the large professional at that ones do add. Not to your former job. Cant imagine it would. It perhaps learns one to find the cockpit tools a bit faster.
The games like il2 do add, but are not in any way ( i played the game like a religion) had i ever the idea it was anything but a game. A very good game but still a game.
Now i have met a few more professional simulations. Just for fun and on invites as a guest. I did not see really very much difference. And that is i think what is the crunch.
Nothing can change a real life seat in a plane to a cosy seat at home behind a computer. Nothing, period. Full stop, go home. Pull up your pants.
It is i think like trying to be Simone Biles the gymnast behind a keyboard. Fun until one tries it in real life. It will end very badly and most painfully.
Just as all off the keyboard jockeys will end egg planted on their face with a million dollar coffin wrapped around them.
But to end hopefully, perhaps a few will try to make it for real. Military or civil. The next gen has to come from somewhere.
I wish them well.
Also it would greatly depend on how the aircraft were operated. The Russians operated the P-39 at full throttle plus. That made the engines only last 20 hours until overhaul. Alexander Pokryshkin, the top Airacobra ace, refused to change to any other plane including the Lavochkin La-7. The YAK-9 was faster but only up high at 20,000 ft. The Germans had to come down low to fight.The Russians somehow managed to get the Germans to fight at low to modest altitudes, where the P-39 wasn't disadvantaged. And the Russians used the advantages of the P-39, such as up close and personal with that 37mm cannon, decent low altitude speed and a decent turn radius. I'm sure some Germans knew to stay away from their opponents strengths, but maybe an overly enthusiastic command structure ordered their pilots to in affect throw away their planes' advantages.
Do you have a reference for that? I can tell you that 20 hours was not a hard number and it usually depended if the engine started "making metal." According to P-39 pilot Nikolay Golodnikov, up to 50 hours was seen, 10-15 sorties in combat, and this was on the initial deliveries of P-39s and their "early engines."Also it would greatly depend on how the aircraft were operated. The Russians operated the P-39 at full throttle plus. That made the engines only last 20 hours until overhaul. Alexander Pokryshkin, the top Airacobra ace, refused to change to any other plane including the Lavochkin La-7. The YAK-9 was faster but only up high at 20,000 ft. The Germans had to come down low to fight.
And the Fw190 was in it's element at those altitudes.The Germans had to come down low to fight.