Paradoxes (Things That Contradict Themselves) Of WWII

[cheddar cheese]

dumb: American

please dont be offensive

septic tank>>>>what a wank>>>>>>yank>>>>>

again, less of the insults 8)

 

[Rell]

Yeah, their generation remember America as 'the country who saved our arses', whereas the modern generation, with the benefit of hindsight, can see that the circumstances under which America 'helped' Britain during the war were very much geared towards their own national benefit, and that basically Britain was screwed over by the Americans, and has been ever since...

Contraversial I know - but that's the way it looks to me.

What country would get involved in a war, killing millions of their own people if not for their own benefit, why do you think we entered the gulf etc, for our health?

 

[the lancaster kicks ass]

dumb: American

you told me to say that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[cheddar cheese]

i didnt

 

[Huckebein]

Yeah, their generation remember America as 'the country who saved our arses', whereas the modern generation, with the benefit of hindsight, can see that the circumstances under which America 'helped' Britain during the war were very much geared towards their own national benefit, and that basically Britain was screwed over by the Americans, and has been ever since...

Contraversial I know - but that's the way it looks to me.

What country would get involved in a war, killing millions of their own people if not for their own benefit, why do you think we entered the gulf etc, for our health?

Yeah, I know that, I'm just saying that my grandparent's generation were fed (or in any case believed) that the Americans had come over to help us out and fight the Evil Nazis, and most of them still do. My Nan (apart from being a little on the racist side) still believes this and won't believe me when I tell her of the enormous economic and political benefits America gained by entering the war (especially by entering it half-way through!).

 

[bronzewhaler82]

Ah yes, never underestimate the power of denial! 8)

 

[BatGirl]

Yeah, I know that, I'm just saying that my grandparent's generation were fed (or in any case believed) that the Americans had come over to help us out and fight the Evil Nazis, and most of them still do. My Nan (apart from being a little on the racist side) still believes this and won't believe me when I tell her of the enormous economic and political benefits America gained by entering the war (especially by entering it half-way through!).

I understand the political benefits and to an extend the economic ones, but can you just explain the economic ones as you understand them

 

[bronzewhaler82]

Another Paradox just occured to me....during WW2 one of the best designs of light (i.e anti-fighter/lowflying aircraft) Anti-aircraft guns we Brits had were made by the company 'Bofor' which is a Swedish company - the obvious irony there is that Sweden was Neutral and yet I shudder to think how many Germans we killed with a neutral nations weapons!!

 

[the lancaster kicks ass]

ok, the V-2 rocket, because when it fell from a hight of 16 miles it broke the sound barrier, you would hear it explode BEFORE you heard it coming ( i know it's not a a, i just thought it was intersting)

 

[cheddar cheese]

the lancaster kicks ass
General of the Air Force

lucky sod

 

[GermansRGeniuses]

ok, the V-2 rocket, because when it fell from a hight of 16 miles it broke the sound barrier, you would hear it explode BEFORE you heard it coming ( i know it's not a a, i just thought it was intersting)

the gun on the A-10 Warthog (modern plane) is so fast and powerful that you see the bullets hit before you hear the sound of them firing! crazy huh?

Reichsmarschall Batista

 

[jj1982]

hi guys

I learnt something today about the attempted recapture of monte cassino in italy... the third attempt...The aussies were there witht the americans and the gurkas and they decided to not only bring in the tanks, infantry but the air force as well. One lot came over the hills, whilst the tanks rolled forward as the bombers did there stuff. The problem was the the americans bombed the hell out of the castle town so much that when the tanks went to roll in to claim back the town, they got stuck and were sitting ducks for the germans to pick them off. A lot men died and several more were captured...I am sure that you will agree with me that whilst the tactics were sound....it really didnt work. I found this quite amazing almost to the point of amusment, however there is nothing amusing in the pounding and the pain those poor chaps had to endure...I didnt get to watch the rest of the programme so i dont know if it was succesful in the end.. If someone has any knowledge of this, please let me know. Ta

 

[bronzewhaler82]

I'm sure it was sucessful (considering we won the war ) but how and when i'm not sure - thats always the trouble with bombing at fairly low altitudes (which i'm assuming they did) - its too much for the surrounding area usually....i wonder why they risked flying aircraft over the area..why didn't they just use an artiliary barrage?

 

[jj1982]

Because this was the tactic used on the previous two attempts and if it had worked then, there obviously wouldn't have been a third attempt....those on the ground were preoccupied with the sight of tanks rolling across the towns to reach them and regiments of men coming over the mountain so i guess that the aircraft were relativly safe.....

 

[bronzewhaler82]

But apparently not the roads 8)

 

[cheddar cheese]

(hides)

 

[GermansRGeniuses]

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A WEEK OR SO AGO I HAD AT LEAST 435 POSTS, NOW I HAVE 337 (COUNTING THIS ONE!!!) I KNOW THAT THERE ARE NEW POST DELETING LAWS BUT CMON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Reichsmarschall Batista IS PISSED!

 

[bronzewhaler82]

Why is everybody so worried about the number of posts they have? 8)

 

[cheddar cheese]

because we have earned those posts, and they are a fun thing to build up 8) and whilst i understand all he reasons theyre being deleted blah blah they should be able to trust us to keep the spam down, not need to delete the posts an you think youve got it bad germans, ive lost over 200 of my posts

 

[bronzewhaler82]

But some of you guys CAN'T be trusted - theres a few spoiling it for everyone else (i won't name names blah blah blah ) - these people are trying to make the mods and admin out to be the 'bad guys' when in fact its the same 'few' who are ruining it for everyone else with TOO MUCH spam

anyway - now I'M spamming too - paradoxes of WW2....hmmm...

Isn't it funny how the Brits made a car called a Triumph 'Spitfire' and we have a beer (well, ale) called 'Spitfire' and yet there aren't any German beers called 'Me109' or cars called a 'FW190'...didn't the Germans have bloody boring names for their planes...?

The Americans, Brits, French and even the Japs gave their planes interesting names but the Germans and Italians just gave them dull serial numbers....