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* The Missing Air Crew Report (MACR) was authorized in May 1943 to record the facts of the last known circumstances regarding missing air crews. The report was prepared by the unit shortly after the aircraft loss, usually within 48 hours, and then it was sent on to Headquarters, AAF. However, it should be noted that some MACRs were prepared after the war as needs dictated. Also many were prepared at the end of the war to cover losses prior to the introduction of the MACR in the summer of 1943. That is why some 1942/1943 losses will have large (late) MACR numbers while those from summer and fall 1943 will have low (early) numbers.
Great info, thanks!JCMRANGER said:MACR 4723 lists my uncle Lt. Gerald Gowen as the Pilot. His aircraft was shot down by flack the same mission as Lt Dwyer's plane. Allyn's Irish Orphans History has the planes and pilots switched. Two crew members survived from each plane. The last member of my uncles crew was buried in Arlington in April of 05. I talked with the two surviving members of Lt Dwyers plane last September and was told that Dwyers plane was 685 and my uncles was 804. As stated earlier and this is reinforced by post mission reports I have. These two pilots and crews flew both these planes at various times and the were in the rear left formation next to each other when the were shot down by flack. I have been confused over the years by the various reports from different websites and the Army Air Corp MACR but I must go with the living crew members when they tell me they were in plane 685. Both planes crashed near each other near the town of Neunkirchen (nine churches) I have had much pleasure in talking with the familys of my uncles crew and have had the pleasure of sending one man the only picture he has ever seen of his bother and a daughter a picture of her dad at his station in the plane. Thank you to all who sacrificed everything for us and to those who keep their memory alive. Joe Meyers
.....and have had the pleasure of sending one man the only picture he has ever seen of his bother and a daughter a picture of her dad at his station in the plane. ....quote]
Good Job!!!!
Here is a photo of the crew
Front: Sgt. D.O. Pratt; Lt. Stanley N. Dwyer, Pilot; Lt. Manley H. Dale, Co-Pilot; Sgt. Gail Popplewell. Rear: Sgts. G.P. Mitchell, J.J. Boros, D. Oldfather, J.J. Papazian.
Hello everyone!
I am from Austria/Europe and found some parts of an Airplane at a B17 crashplace. The B17 which crashed there on May, 10th 1944 was the "The Irish Orphans" and the serial number was 42-31685 or 42-31804. I am not sure about the serial number. I just know that the pilot's name was Stanley Dwyer and that he is still MIA.
I am looking for the crew list and any information which are available. Does anyone know what the "42" in the serial number means? Maybe the year when the plane was built?
At one of the parts I found there was a serial number. Actually I found two numbers: 3-14911 and 6-10473. Next to the first serial number I found a sign which I redrew on a piece of paper (see picture). Maybe somebody has a spare part list of a B17G? I would appreciate any kind of help. So does anyone know what kind of parts these pictures show?
Many thanks in advance,
Kurtl