Picture of the day.

Kai Stemm · Dec 20, 2016

TheArtOfFlight said:
Abomination!
Yes folks, regardless of the debate surrounding Galland's famous quote about wanting Spitfires to win the battle of Britain, one thing is certain. Messerschmitt AG decided it would at least be worth trying to wed a captured Spitfire to a Daimler Benz DB engine/nose and spinner. Sadly there is no data available for this bizarre prototype, but i think we can all agree it was a very bad idea indeed. View attachment 360707

Weird idea

Crimea_River · Dec 20, 2016

No weirder than other things that were tried.

Welcome aboard ArtofFlight. Read your other posts and look forward to your input.

Kai Stemm · Dec 20, 2016

Crimea_River said:
No weirder than other things that were tried.

Welcome aboard ArtofFlight. Read your other posts and look forward to your input.

But as a engineer you should be thinking about how unstable it would get

michaelmaltby · Dec 20, 2016

"....we can all agree it was a very bad idea indeed. "

It was ....? Why?

michaelmaltby · Dec 20, 2016

supermen ....

Kai Stemm · Dec 20, 2016

michaelmaltby said:
"....we can all agree it was a very bad idea indeed. "

It was ....? Why?

Was worth a try... If the spitfire was proving so good then why not try to recreate it with available materials

Wurger · Dec 20, 2016

Look out.. no brake lights... a Panther in Paris....

Kai Stemm · Dec 20, 2016

Wurger said:
Look out.. no brake lights... a Panther in Paris....

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Funny how life goes on a biker just peddles past

Old Wizard · Dec 20, 2016

TheArtOfFlight · Dec 20, 2016

Kai Stemm said:
Weird idea

Very. Although not unique. There were many weird concept and hybrid aircraft built by both the allies and axis during ww2

Kai Stemm said:
Was worth a try... If the spitfire was proving so good then why not try to recreate it with available materials

I was thinking more in terms of looks rather than functionality. The Spitfire is after all arguably the most beautiful looking aircraft ever designed. But yes i agree anything is worth trying. Wasnt it the Red Baron himself who had his mechanic fit a Bentley engine to his Albatros Dlll...

Kai Stemm said:
But as a engineer you should be thinking about how unstable it would get

The best dogfighters are unstable. The less accurate your turns are the less likely you are to be shot down (have your enemy keep up with you). Thank you kindly for the welcome

Kai Stemm · Dec 20, 2016

Japanese Carrier Akagi in 1930 note the 3 flight decks

GrauGeist · Dec 20, 2016

TheArtOfFlight said:
Abomination!
Yes folks, regardless of the debate surrounding Galland's famous quote about wanting Spitfires to win the battle of Britain, one thing is certain. Messerschmitt AG decided it would at least be worth trying to wed a captured Spitfire to a Daimler Benz DB engine/nose and spinner. Sadly there is no data available for this bizarre prototype, but i think we can all agree it was a very bad idea indeed. View attachment 360707

There's plenty of data available.

That is a Spitfire Vb, EN380, downed by German flak over France on 18 November 1942. It safely landed in a turnip field, it and it's pilot, P/O Scheidhaur (Free French AF) were captured - he was later shot during a mass escape of POWs from Luft Stalag 111. The captured Spitfire was designated CJ+ZY.

The Spitfire was evaluated off and on for several years and in 1944, it was fitted with a DB605A-1, complete with a Bf109 prop. The re-engined Spit proved to to have impressive performance above 11,000 feet also having a max. ceiling of 41,666 feet - 5,000 feet higher than a Merlin 45 powered Spitfire Vb. This project never went anywhere, though and further testing was cancelled.

The Germans had also installed a DB601 in a captured Spitfire before this project.

michaelmaltby · Dec 20, 2016

Old Wizard · Dec 20, 2016

michaelmaltby · Dec 21, 2016

... Canadians inspect 88 self propelled gun

TheArtOfFlight · Dec 21, 2016

A P-47 Thunderbolt of the U.S. Army 12th Air Force flies low over the crumbled ruins of what once was Hitler's retreat at Berchtesgaden, Germany, on May 26, 1945. Small and large bomb craters dot the grounds around the wreckage.

Wurger · Dec 21, 2016

Yak-9Ds of the 6th GIAP ....

michaelmaltby · Dec 21, 2016

Ferdinand ....

.... note the kill rings on the barrel. I believe this is Kursk offensive.

michaelmaltby · Dec 21, 2016

.... no kill rings or bravado here.

Wurger · Dec 21, 2016

Tu-2R of the 2nd Long Range Recce Regiment, 1942 ...

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