Pictures of Cold War aircraft.

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[Donivanp]

What the heck is this?

 

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What the heck is this?

Bristol Type 188

 

[SaparotRob]

Not even close in speed. The 262 will out run by some 200 mph (give or take) and the 262's fire power would disintegrate an A-37. The A-37 had a 7.62 mini gun. Top speed on the 37 was less than 400 mph. P-51 would out run it.

I guess I was thinking in a close-in, more acrobatic sense. The type of fight best suited to a rotary engined bipe. I thought that the Super Tweet would have an advantage in power plants . I recall something like the 262 pilot having to make an appointment with the engines to throttle up. Another appointment with them to throttle down. Discuss the possibility of an emergency maneuver with their representatives. Etc.

 

[Donivanp]

One should consider that the Me262 is faster than the A-10 and the A-10 is faster than the A-37. The A-37 was, like the F-5, (basically a design based on the T-38, stop gap's designs for small nations air forces. Namely the Nixon Vietnamasation (or how ever you spell that) program. Yes as power adjustments went and maneuvering go yes but a 262 isn't going to slow down to play with its food. If it's landing (ie P-51 bait) than maybe you got it. That said, different rolls!!!!

 

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[Sabrejet]

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Looks like Boscombe Down, though the Bristol 188 seems to have been mainly photographed at the company's Filton site. One of the two flyers still survives.

 

[SaparotRob]

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Anyone else hear the James Bond theme?

 

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Anyone else hear the James Bond theme?

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ia6-5gC5ArM

 

[GreenKnight121]

The A-37 has different, more powerful engines. Super beefed up airframe with multiple hard points on the wings ( I think if I remember three each wing for a total of six) and the airframe is a little larger with a gun.

T-37A: two Continental J69-T-9 turbojet engines 920 lb thrust each; no gun

T-37B: two Continental J69-T-25 turbojet engines 1,025 lb thrust each; no gun; max speed 425 mph (684 km/h, 369 kn);
empty weight 4,056 lb (1,840 kg); max takeoff weight 6,574 lb (2,982 kg)

T-37C same as B except 2 underwing hardpoints capacity 250lb each, and pod-mounted .50mg w/ 200rnds,
empty weight 5,486 lb (2,490 kg).


A-37A: two General Electric J85-GE-9 turbojet engines 2,680 lb thrust each, 1 GE GAU-2B/A 7.62mm minigun with 1,500 rnds; 6 underwing hardpoints for 4,700 lb ordnance;
rebuilt T-37Bs; empty weight 6,211 lb (2,817 kg); max takeoff weight 12,000 lb (5,443 kg)

A-37B: two General Electric J85-GE-17A turbojet engines 2,950 lb thrust each, 1 GE GAU-2B/A 7.62mm minigun with 1,500 rnds; 8 underwing hardpoints with a capacity of inner four: 860 lb (390 kg), two intermediate: 600 lb (270 kg), two outer: 500 lb (230 kg), total max 5,880 lb ordnance;
new builds; max speed 507 mph (816 km/h, 441 kn); empty weight 6,211 lb (2,817 kg); max takeoff weight 14,000 lb (6,350 kg)

 

[GreenKnight121]

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North American F-100D-45-NH Super Sabre 55-2918: (3rd TFW) damaged in VC rocket attack on Bien Hoa AB, South Vietnam Feb 22, 1969

North American F-100D-30-NA Super Sabre 55-3731: (401st TFW/307th TFS) crashed Jun 18, 1968 10 mi SSW of Renquena, Spain

North American F-100D-75-NA Super Sabre 56-3198: with 113th TFS in South Vietnam. To MASDC Jul 9, 1979 as FE558.
Converted to QF-100D drone no. 349. W/o 30 September 1989. Shot down.

 

[Donivanp]

T-37A: two Continental J69-T-9 turbojet engines 920 lb thrust each; no gun

T-37B: two Continental J69-T-25 turbojet engines 1,025 lb thrust each; no gun; max speed 425 mph (684 km/h, 369 kn);
empty weight 4,056 lb (1,840 kg); max takeoff weight 6,574 lb (2,982 kg)

T-37C same as B except 2 underwing hardpoints capacity 250lb each, and pod-mounted .50mg w/ 200rnds,
empty weight 5,486 lb (2,490 kg).


A-37A: two General Electric J85-GE-9 turbojet engines 2,680 lb thrust each, 1 GE GAU-2B/A 7.62mm minigun with 1,500 rnds; 6 underwing hardpoints for 4,700 lb ordnance;
rebuilt T-37Bs; empty weight 6,211 lb (2,817 kg); max takeoff weight 12,000 lb (5,443 kg)

A-37B: two General Electric J85-GE-17A turbojet engines 2,950 lb thrust each, 1 GE GAU-2B/A 7.62mm minigun with 1,500 rnds; 8 underwing hardpoints with a capacity of inner four: 860 lb (390 kg), two intermediate: 600 lb (270 kg), two outer: 500 lb (230 kg), total max 5,880 lb ordnance;
new builds; max speed 507 mph (816 km/h, 441 kn); empty weight 6,211 lb (2,817 kg); max takeoff weight 14,000 lb (6,350 kg)

Yeah, what he said

 

[GreenKnight121]

Da' heck izzat?

Baade 152

East German (DDR) jet airliner prototype - initial design was for 57 passengers normal, 42 "spacious version", 72 "high capacity" version.
Built by VEB Flugzeugwerke Dresden. Engineering team led by Brunolf Baade.
Formal work began 1955 (initial work was started in 1952 inside the USSR - when the engineers were permitted to return to East Germany all of their papers, design documents, etc were kept in the USSR).

3 airworthy prototypes built, first flight 4 December 1958. Second flight of first prototype 4 March 1959 ended in crash destroying the aircraft.
First flight of second prototype was on 26 August 1960, but after 3 flights it was grounded due to fuel tank issues. The third prototype was used only for the ground testing.

On 28 February 1961 the DDR government dissolved all DDR aeronautical industry (the entire "Eastern Bloc" did the same at the same time), under pressure from the USSR, who wanted its own aircraft to be used by its satellite states.

 

[special ed]

A long time friend flew those when first assigned to V.N. We knew he was scheduled to go over but I heard nothing, so I called his mom who told me that he is there but he still hasn't called to tell us. I asked how do you know? She said read the paper. The local newspaper had a write up about "local flyer shoots up river boats supplying VC at night by moonlight".
He retired driving F-16s. He started out of flight school on F-101B.

 

[Sabrejet]

North American F-100D-45-NH Super Sabre 55-2918: (3rd TFW) damaged in VC rocket attack on Bien Hoa AB, South Vietnam Feb 22, 1969

North American F-100D-30-NA Super Sabre 55-3731: (401st TFW/307th TFS) crashed Jun 18, 1968 10 mi SSW of Renquena, Spain

North American F-100D-75-NA Super Sabre 56-3198: with 113th TFS in South Vietnam. To MASDC Jul 9, 1979 as FE558.
Converted to QF-100D drone no. 349. W/o 30 September 1989. Shot down.

The photos show these aircraft with 4510th​ CCTW at Luke in the early '60s after crew training transferred from FTAF to TAC.

 

[bf109xxl]

(initial work was started in 1952 inside the USSR - when the engineers were permitted to return to East Germany all of their papers, design documents, etc were kept in the USSR).

Initial work was started much earlier - in 1948 (bomber project RB-2, then "150"). Some ideas implemented in "150" were from Alekseev - e.g. tandem landing gear, but with Baade's improvements. According to some Russian-language sources, the German designers of the OKB-1 were allowed to take some documentation from the USSR to the DDR in 1954.

 

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