RAF Bomber Command summer 1940, How to bomb Auschwitz?

WARSPITER · Jan 24, 2020

The source was a census done on the people moving to the newly formed state of Israel after the war. This census was carried
out officially by the state of Israel itself. It also resulted in a letter of thanks sent to the vatican from the government of Israel.

swampyankee · Jan 24, 2020

Big Jake said:
In 1940 Auschwitz as a death camp didn't exist yet. Auschwitz was bombed by 15th AF bombers coming from Italy in Aug. 1944, but they didn't target the death camp but an A.G. Faben synthetic fuel plant nearby. Auschwitz could be bombed but the Allied command, for whatever reasons, did not consider bombing the death camp or the transportation system leading to it, and thus saving Jews as worthwhile.

Jake

stona said:
Explain to me how bombing the Auschwitz-Birkenau camps could have saved the prisoners, Jewish or otherwise.

You say that the Allies did not consider saving the Jews worthwhile (the vast majority of the victims of the Holocaust were dead July 1944 anyway) which is a facile statement with no evidence to support it at all. The Allies did save many Jews and others, by winning the war.

Even were it within Allied capability to bomb camps in Eastern Europe, where most of the death camps were located, the death camp inmates' survival is dependent on ill, starving people's escaping into a countryside full of vengeful German troops, local collaborators, and terrorized local citizens. It wasn't as if all the people of Eastern Europe were candidates for Rightful Gentiles.

Kevin J · Jan 24, 2020

WARSPITER said:
The source was a census done on the people moving to the newly formed state of Israel after the war. This census was carried
out officially by the state of Israel itself. It also resulted in a letter of thanks sent to the vatican from the government of Israel.

I've seen the Israeli stats which show only 4 million victims from the holocaust, all this other stuff sounds like fake news to me.

WARSPITER · Jan 24, 2020

It's not fake news and stating that doesn't make your argument valid.

There are plenty of statements made by jews who escaped Europe.
For example - "Only the Church stood squarely across the path of Hitler's campaign for suppressing the truth … I am forced thus to confess that what I once despised I now praise unreservedly." Albert Einstein.

The thing to remember here is that the whole Nazi system was based on Atheist / Eugenicist ideology. Totalitarian suppression of human thought and beliefs is what was fought
against. Blaming any religion for this is false

Kevin J · Jan 24, 2020

WARSPITER said:
It's not fake news and stating that doesn't make your argument valid.

There are plenty of statements made by jews who escaped Europe.
For example - "Only the Church stood squarely across the path of Hitler's campaign for suppressing the truth … I am forced thus to confess that what I once despised I now praise unreservedly." Albert Einstein.

The thing to remember here is that the whole Nazi system was based on Atheist / Eugenicist ideology. Totalitarian suppression of human thought and beliefs is what was fought
against. Blaming any religion for this is false

There were lots of good Christians in Europe, just no one at the top to force the issue.

WARSPITER · Jan 24, 2020

Who was supposed to be at the top and what issue were they supposed to force ?

Kevin J · Jan 24, 2020

WARSPITER said:
Who was supposed to be at the top and what issue were they supposed to force ?

The Pope mate. Exactly what media have you been watching. I hope it's not American. Hollywood has some serious issues with the truth.

GrauGeist · Jan 24, 2020

WTF does the Pope have to do with the bombing of Concentration camps and why is Hollywood being drug into the conversation?

WARSPITER · Jan 24, 2020

Good question

Kevin J · Jan 24, 2020

GrauGeist said:
WTF does the Pope have to do with the bombing of Concentration camps and why is Hollywood being drug into the conversation?

WTF does the RAF have to do with Auschwitz not being bombed? Only the Americans in Foggia could have precision bombed it in Spring 1944. They didn't. Second strike against the Pope is that he claims to be God's representative on Earth, and yet failed to ask God to launch precision thunderbolt strikes against Auschwitz. Maybe all those foo fighters following those USAAF bombers around were the watchers waiting for something to be done to help the Jews.

DerAdlerIstGelandet · Jan 24, 2020

How about we get this back on topic?!

Edit: Ah, I see the thread was closed because people cannot behave like adults.

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