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I said it happened in the Gulf War...which was a war. The MiG-29 did show up as a friendly so they couldn't fire until the eyeball.
Yes, I do know how to read, and I wrote that:
There is absolutly no need nowadays to ID an a/c by visual confirmation - it is however done in peacetimes to ensure the savety for "irregular" civilian a/c - not in a war.
Why should - or how should a MiG29 ID or IDF or show up as friendly???, since no friendly operated a MiG29 in the Iraq.
Regards
Kruska
Ask the USAF.
I do not think that you correspond with the USAF directlyif so please let me know since I do not.
I asume that you retrive your knowledge from publications and as such you might have missinterpreted some statement or you ignore the simple fact that the USAF does not trust to much in its electronical capabilities and especially airspace-disciplin in regards to warfare.
Regards
Kruska
Assume? Ignore?
You tell me that I can't read in my own language?
The rules of engagement needed confirmation of enemy in case you brought down a friendly. Therefore you have to get an eyeball on the jet. And a dogfight begins...
I said it happened in the Gulf War...which was a war. The MiG-29 did show up as a friendly so they couldn't fire until the eyeball.
Assume? Ignore?
Do you assume that I ignore?
You tell me that I can't read in my own language?
Well ain't that something.
That is not true.
Each and every aircraft that was part of the coalition had a transponder that would ident them as friendly. Have you heard of IFF?
They did not have to visual on an enemy aircraft to shoot it down.
No the Mig-29 would not show up as a friendly on the Transponder. The Transponder's are loaded every day so they are different every day. If the little thing (I can't remember the name of the tool I used to load our transponder every day before flight) was lost, then the transponders were deleted and loaded with a different code.
The only way an Iraqi Mig-29 could show up as friendly on an IFF transponder would be if they had the thing to load them with. They did not, and they were never compromised. There was never a need to get visual.
I really dont understand were you are getting this from...
Sorry Basket, I do not know where you are getting this from, it is wrong.
Captain Craig Underhill and Capt Caser Rodriguez.
Jan 19 when the Mig-29 flew into the ground...and Rodriguez claimed a manuever kill
It was on an episode of Dgfights.Source and link please?
There is no way that a Mig-29 would show up as a friendly. I can believe that they shot down a Mig-29 in close proximity, but not because its transponder said friendly.
Hello Henk,
thanks again for the Lt. Bomba link. I will enjoy reading it.
Never heard of the things you're talking about. are you refering to me or The Basket?
In case you should refer to RaSigma please check my post No.39 under Modern / F-14
Regards
Kruska
It was on an episode of Dgfights.
It is on youtube but Im on my PDA so can't do any links.
The pilots themselves tell exactly what occurred.
Airliners fly specific routes at specific altitudes and are under control of approach and departure centers - they carry transponders and are assigned squawk codes to specifically identify them.But my big point is how on radar do you tell the difference between a big large bomber like one of those Tu-95 Bear and a Russian civilian airliner on the radar? I can remember one book by Tom Clancy it might be discusses a plan where bombers are disguised as civilian airliners to drop bombs on US cities.