Erich
the old Sage
plan it is in German, and I cannot seem to see the cover for some reason as a scan on the fourms.
the book might be worth it alone for the pics ......... ?
the book might be worth it alone for the pics ......... ?
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Guys guys...why are you doing this? Why do you anatomize this so much? No offense, but you all act like you were in WW2. And Im sure you weren´t. I have nothing against discussions like this, but this is too much. And what more, useless. I know it is hard to find authentic source which says truth but something you say here is only wild theories. I hope you catch the point of my reply. (By the way, 17 pd gun with APDS-SV shell have better penetration than KwK43 - if we talk clearly only about penetration. I havent energy to reply at all of your opinions, sorry)
Guys guys...why are you doing this? Why do you anatomize this so much? No offense, but you all act like you were in WW2. And Im sure you weren´t. I have nothing against discussions like this, but this is too much. And what more, useless. I know it is hard to find authentic source which says truth but something you say here is only wild theories. I hope you catch the point of my reply. (By the way, 17 pd gun with APDS-SV shell have better penetration than KwK43 - if we talk clearly only about penetration. I havent energy to reply at all of your opinions, sorry)
My basic point was that the Konigstigers armour had no Molybdenum or Manganese content (maybe even no Nickel) so a 122mm round would make a 'scab' fly through the KT (like a HESH round) unless it hit it in the turret which would likely rip it clean off.
That is without it penetrating.
Any other vs ideas?
Guys guys...why are you doing this? Why do you anatomize this so much? No offense, but you all act like you were in WW2. And Im sure you weren´t. I have nothing against discussions like this, but this is too much. And what more, useless. I know it is hard to find authentic source which says truth but something you say here is only wild theories. I hope you catch the point of my reply. (By the way, 17 pd gun with APDS-SV shell have better penetration than KwK43 - if we talk clearly only about penetration. I havent energy to reply at all of your opinions, sorry)
Wikipedia has a photo of a B with a front turret penetration, likely a 17-pounder.Fact is there are absolutely no records of the Tiger Ausf.B's frontal armor ever being penetrated
An M36 knocked out a Panther at 4000 yards and a Tiger B would have be vulnerable, too, as both had relatively light roof armor and the projectiles would be plunging into it at steep arcs.A long-range frontal attack against a Tiger Ausf.B would have been pure suicide
Too bad for the Soviets they didn't have their IS3 ready in time; its frontal armor was so formidable that in the 1967 war, the Israelis had to close to 500 yards to penetrate it with their space-age L7 105mms firing high-tech ammunition. Good luck with a Kwk 43.Nashorn crews also reported that they were able to knock out Soviet T-34 tanks at distances as great as 4000 meters, aswell as numerous kills of KV and IS-2 tanks as well as SU-152, ISU-122 and ISU-152 assault guns.
An M36 knocked out a Panther at 4000 yards and a Tiger B would have be vulnerable, too, as both had relatively light roof armor and the projectiles would be plunging into it at steep arcs.